Allies Rick Scott and Rick Perry Get Different Results in Florida Poll

By: Kevin Derby | Posted: August 7, 2014 3:55 AM
Rick Scott and Rick Perry

Rick Scott and Rick Perry

Gov. Rick Scott, R-Fla., and Gov. Rick Perry, R-Texas, have been longtime allies, expressing their admiration for each other and engaging in mock competition between their states over job creation. But a poll released this week shows the two Republican governors are facing different races in the Sunshine State as they look ahead to 2014 and 2016.  

Scott bounced back against former Gov. Charlie Crist, his leading Democratic challenger, in a Survey USA/WFLA poll released on Tuesday. Two weeks ago, Crist had established a lead over Scott but the governor roared back in the latest poll.

In the new poll, Scott leads 45 percent to 43 percent while 8 percent support other candidates and 4 percent remain undecided. In the last Survey USA/WFLA poll, Crist led 46 percent to 40 percent.

The poll finds a bit of a gender gap in Florida with Scott getting 50 percent of men while Crist garners the support of 41 percent of them. Women lean Crist’s way with 45 percent backing him and 41 percent supporting Scott.

Crist does better with younger voters, leading Scott 47 percent to 41 percent with voters younger than 50. Voters 50 and older go Scott’s way, 48 percent to 41 percent.

The poll shows both candidates have done well in securing their respective bases. Scott takes 80 percent of Republicans while Crist gets 78 percent of Democrats despite being a member of the party only since December 2012. Independents go Scott’s way, 45 percent to 33 percent.

But while Scott can take some solace in the poll, it gives Perry less reason to smile as he contemplates making a second bid for the Republican presidential nomination. Perry has increasingly shown signs of running again for the presidency in 2016, hitting the campaign trail in Iowa, home of the first caucus, in recent days.

Former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, the heavy favorite for the Democratic nomination, leads Perry 50 percent to 40 percent in Florida.

Clinton leads Perry with both sexes, edging him with men, 44 percent to 43 percent, and blowing him out with women, 55 percent to 37 percent. Both candidates keep their bases behind them with 78 percent of Republicans behind Perry and 84 percent of Democrats rallying behind Clinton. Independents are divided, with 41 percent for Perry and 40 percent for Clinton.

The poll shows Perry does much better when paired up against Vice President Joe Biden. Perry beats Biden 44 percent to 43 percent, taking the lead among men and closing the gap with women voters. Both candidates keep their parties behind them, with 84 percent of Republicans for Perry and 74 percent of Democrats backing Biden. Perry beats Biden among independents 44 percent to 36 percent.

The gubernatorial poll consisted of 576 likely voters was taken from July 31-Aug. 4 and had a margin of error of +/- 4.2 percent. The presidential poll of 859 registered voters was taken during the same time period and had a margin of error of +/- 3.4 percent.

Reach Kevin Derby at kderby@sunshinestatenews.com.

Comments (10)

C Breeze
1:15PM AUG 7TH 2014
Just goes to show just how shallow and lemming-like Democrat voters are, to choose and support a recent political "turncoat" like Charlie "the tuna" Crist whose 'record' doesn't deserve support (unless you're a lackey, toadie or minion without a substantiated thought in your head); Just pull the "D key" at your polling places Democrats, then relax and go watch a rainbow or get a butterfly tattoo on your ankle and a glass of wine and await the bestowing of your unearned "rewards"...
Rick Scott, George Bush and Disney - the same king maker!
12:43PM AUG 7TH 2014
Richard Rainwater- the common denominator between the Bush’s - Rick Scott and Michael Eisner-
On October 19, 1987, the day the stock market crashed, Rick Scott and Richard Rainwater each put up $125,000 to start a company called Columbia Hospital Corporation. In 1988, Columbia bought two hospitals in El Paso. By the end of 1989, Rick Scott ran a chain of 24 hospitals across the Southeastern United States, mostly in Texas and Florida.
But, who was Rick Scott and how did he pull off all the magical tricks?
Richard (Rick) Lynn Scott: - Texas License Date: 11/06/1978 - Bar Card Number 17909700
was a partner with Johnson & Swanson (established in 1970) Rick Scott’s Dallas, Texas clients list included Tom Hicks and Scott became partner’s with Hicks and George W. Bush in the Texas Rangers. Another Scott client was Richard Rainwater who beginning in 1987 along with Rick Scott and with the help of Jeb Bush was able to pick up the pieces of the South Florida HMO organizations of Miguel Recarey (International Medical Centers) and their already organized Medicare Fraud establishment.
Number 65 on GWB pay to play list - Richard L. Scott (Ft. Worth): $10,000 - Now known as Rick Scott - With start up capital from Richard Rainwater (No. 10), Scott started Columbia/HCA Healthcare chain. The HMO’s 10-year, hospital-buying binge ended in 1997 with federal investigators raiding Columbia facilities for evidence of Medicare fraud.
In 1987, Miguel Recarey, a longstanding business associate of Tampa Mafia boss Santo Trafficante, Jr. fled the U.S. under three indictments for labor racketeering, illegal wiretapping, and Medicare fraud. His firm, International Medical Centers (IMC), which was reported to have received start up capital from Trafficante, became America’s largest health maintenance organization for the elderly and had received $1 billion in Medicare funds, collapsed. Recarey’s HMO left $222 million in unpaid bills, and was suspected of up to $100 million in Medicare fraud. “IMC is the classic case of embezzlement of government funds,” said William Teich, who headed the U.S. Office of Labor Racketeering in Miami. Teich called it a “bust-out operation” where money was “drained out the back door” and disappeared down “a black hole.”
But in 1985, Recarey had faced a major obstacle to building his Medicare empire: a Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) regulation that restricted an HMO to drawing no more than 50% of its revenue from Medicare. Jeb Bush came to the rescue: he called both HHS Secretary Margaret Heckler and a top aide, C. McLain Haddow and successfully convinced them to waive the regulation for Recarey, Haddow testified to Congress. Bush’s lobbying of HHS took place during the same period that top-level Republican lobbyists whom Recarey had hired for $1 million were also courting HHS for the waiver. Bush said that he did not recall making any calls to Heckler or Haddow, but confirmed that he made one call on Recarey’s behalf to Haddow’s assistant, to secure Recarey a “fair hearing” within HHS.
Haddow added in a news interview that in November 1984, Jeb had also called Heckler and Haddow for Recarey about another problem - complaints to HHS from doctors and patients about IMC’s medical care and allegations that Recarey had embezzled funds a few years earlier from another hospital. Bush had told Haddow that “contrary to any rumors that were floating around concerning Mr. Recarey, that he was a solid citizen from Mr. Bush’s perspective down there [in Miami], that he was a good community citizen and a good supporter of the Republican Party.”
December 16, 1987 - Federal investigators told Congress today that one of the nation's largest health maintenance organizations had defrauded the Government of Medicare reimbursement payments while leaving many elderly patients liable for bills they thought had been paid.
The organization, International Medical Centers, of Miami, defrauded the Government of at least $12 million, they said.
From 1981 to 1986, a period in which the Department of Health and Human Services was making key decisions concerning the now-bankrupt organization, at least half a dozen high-ranking H.H.S. employees left the Government to work for the Miami company at salaries many times those they were making as civil servants, the investigators from the General Accounting Office and Health and Human Services told a House Government Affairs subcommittee.
Miguel G. Recarey Jr., a Miami businessman who was president of International Medical Centers during this period, was indicted earlier this year on Federal labor racketeering charges and was convicted last week on superseding wiretapping charges, but is believed to have fled the country, the investigators said.
Despite Jeb's involvement, trouble began brewing for IMC when a low-level HHS special agent in Miami, Leon Weinstein, discovered that Recarey was defrauding Medicare through overcharges, false invoicing, and outright embezzlement. Weinstein had been following Recarey's activities since 1977, and as early as 1983 he believed he had enough information to put together a case. However, he found his HHS superiors less than receptive; they took no action on Weinstein's information.
IMC was taken over by state regulators in mid-1987 and sold to Humana Inc., the company was receiving more than $30 million in federal Medicare money each month to treat and care for Medicare patients.
By now Rick Scott ran a chain of 24 hospitals across the Southeastern United States, mostly in Texas and Florida. The original $125,000 investment had become worth an estimated $89 million. Twelve months ago he ran 196 hospitals linked in a $10 billion corporation, and the value of the investment had grown to an estimated $180 million.
In the meantime, Humana had been failing in its attempt to build an integrated HMO-hospital business. Humana's hospital business units were expected to maximize revenues, while the insurance units were expected to keep hospital costs down. When Humana had several hospitals in one area, they competed against one another, rather than cooperating. Doctors were antagonized by Humana's capitation strategy, and other HMOs steered patients away from Humana hospitals, since they saw Humana as a competitor. The Humana hospitals lost business, bed days fell, and the patient mix tilted increasingly toward Medicare and Medicaid work. Early in 1993, Humana threw in the towel and spun off its 75 hospitals as Galen Health Care. The new company faced a long uphill struggle winning back the doctors and wooing the HMOs, without a lot of cash for the fight. So when the young aggressive Scott approached them about a merger, Galen was ready. On September 1, after only six months in existence, the $4 billion Galen merged into the $1 billion Columbia.

But, who is Richard Rainwater?
Richard Rainwater first got rich working for the Bass family of Fort Worth. Sid Bass, eldest of four brothers and Rainwater’s Stanford classmate, hired him to manage the family’s money in 1970, when Rainwater was 26. In 16 years the two men turned the Basses’ $50 million oil fortune into about $5 billion, mostly through spectacular investments in public companies. Their flagship deal was Disney — perhaps “the best deal ever,” says David Bonderman. Their $478 million investment in the floundering company in 1984 became billions after they used their leverage to install new management. Rainwater had done his due diligence, seeking advice on the entertainment business from Star Wars director George Lucas, among others. So he was ready when Michael Eisner, former studio chief at Paramount Pictures, called to pitch himself for the top job, preaching the virtues of picking someone from the creative side. “The speech was five to seven minutes,” recalls Eisner. “It wasn’t prepared. There was a three-second delay. And Richard says, ‘Okay, sounds right. Great! Let’s do it that way.’ He made decisions in a nanosecond.”

In 1986, tiring of not having the final say (Bass was a more conservative investor), Rainwater took his $75 million share and set up his own shop, 12 floors below where he worked with Sid. That ushered in the golden age of Rainwater Inc., a deal making mecca and an investment business unlike any other.
Some of Rainwater’s “capitalist offspring” used the fortunes they made to go into politics. Al Checchi, a key lieutenant on the Disney deal, spent $40 million in an unsuccessful 1998 primary race for California governor. Rainwater helped Rick Scott, a Dallas lawyer, build Columbia/HCA Healthcare Corp. into the nation’s biggest hospital chain, with revenue of $20 billion in 1996. Scott was elected governor of Florida in 2010. And then there’s George W. Bush. Back in the 1980s — before he’d won a single campaign — Bush parked his boots in Rainwater’s offices while working on a scheme to buy the Texas Rangers baseball club.

Orchestrated by Rainwater with Dallas investors Tom Hicks, Rick Scott and Rusty Rose, that acquisition, and stakes in other Rainwater deals, generated the bulk of George W. Bush’s personal wealth.
In September, 1984, Michael Eisner left Paramount to become Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of The Walt Disney Company. Since the death of Walt Disney in 1966, the studio had continued to enjoy periodic box office successes, and to earn profits from its theme parks and merchandising, but many in the industry felt the company was suffering from a lack of direction. Within a few years, Eisner transformed the company into the industry leader.
In 1995, Michael Eisner announced the biggest coup of his career, Disney's acquisition of Capital Cities, owners of Eisner's old employer, the ABC television network. The network brought with it valuable cable television channels, including ESPN, The History Channel, Lifetime, A&E and E! Eisner was now the single most powerful figure in the international communications industry. The merger set off a wave of consolidation in the entertainment and information industries, with Time Warner acquired by America Online, and CBS by Viacom.
In 2004, Michael Eisner relinquished the post of Chairman. He stepped down as Chief Executive Officer in October, 2005. In his 21 years of Disney, Michael Eisner had transformed a film and theme park company with $3 billion in enterprise value into an international multimedia colossus valued at $60 billion.
C Breeze
1:23PM AUG 7TH 2014
Gee, you're a really angry person aren't you? (or then again, maybe you work in a dark corner of "Morgan & Morgan's" "Let's buy us our own Governor" basement...
10:05AM AUG 7TH 2014
With his terrible track record, and his triple fliple floppling, how could anyone even consider voting for Crist??? Come on Ladies, Kids! Wake up and smell the coffee! A Democrat is the last thing we need for Governor, and Crist???? He wouldn't even make a good "DOG CATCHER!!!"
6:10AM AUG 7TH 2014
I'm in my 60's and I made the mistake of voting for Scott four very long years ago. NEVER again will I make that mistake. Scott turned out to be a liar, uncaring, and seemed to keep his distance from the open government he mentioned during his campaign. Can't trust him, can't take his word, and he abandoned most campaign promises. Time to say, "Bye-bye Rick".
C Breeze
1:19PM AUG 7TH 2014
WOW Mark !...That's EXACTLY how I feel about Barak Hussein Obama ! (and I'm ALSO a Democrat, just like you)...
10:06AM AUG 7TH 2014
so, you would rather have a lying left wing democrat that sucks up to oboma ??? have you been to see your shrink lately ?? but then again he can only try to repair brains not make one !!
10:43AM AUG 7TH 2014
There is another choice: Adrian Wyllie. Though I am not an Independent, or for legalizing marijuana, Wyllie seems very legitimate. He was at most of Sheriff Nick Finch's trial, where he knew that Finch had done nothing wrong. Wyllie did not campaign one minute while there. He was just there for support. Governor Scott stuck Sheriff Finch in the back, and I bet he wishes now that he had not listened to his ignorant legal staff. Finch was completely acquitted, because even 30 days before the "trial," a hearing stipulated that Finch had not violated ANY laws at all, and the judge was influenced by Scott to continue the court action. Scott refused to drop the mocked-up charges, even though several prominent legal scholars advised Scott that Finch had done nothing wrong. Scott wanted to look strong against corruption, but it backfired on him. That is your present governor's attitude. Innocent people do not get proper treatment when governors illegally influence justice. That could have been one of us, and we would not have stood a chance. Some may say the system worked and Finch was acquitted. I say crooked governors try to make justice crooked, and Scott starved the Finch family for over 4 months; children and wife. Now Finch has over a $100K attorney bill, and FOR NO REASON but a politician named Governor Scott.

C Breeze
1:30PM AUG 7TH 2014
Yeah, you're sort of right, but Scott was awaiting 'investigative' results when he should have gone after the "small town" prosecutor, who has a history of questionable "good ole boy" maneuvers. Fortunately it all turned out OK...AND..."lesson learned" by Scott: Look askance at your so-called "advisers" (legal and otherwise).
C Breeze
1:39PM AUG 7TH 2014
As much as I admire Wylie, the result will only be a 'split' vote awarding the governorship to Charlie "the tuna" Crist, when HIS post-election report should read: "Once again "NOT THIS TIME EITHER CHARLIE !"
(Maybe Scott would do well to position Wylie high up in his second term Administration so they could watch each others back as protection from rabid Democrat animosity and vindictiveness...)

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