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Amendment 1 Losing Ground

October 31, 2016 - 4:15pm
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A new poll shows a proposed amendment to the state constitution on solar energy regulations is losing steam.

St. Leo University released a poll of likely voters on Monday which shows Amendment 1 stands at 60 percent support, the minimum needed to pass on the ballot next week, while 28 percent are opposed to it and 13 percent are not sure. But that is a far cry from where it stood earlier in the election cycle. A St. Leo poll from September showed Amendment 1 with 84 percent while one back in August had it with 81 percent support. 

Frank Orlando, the director of the Saint Leo University Polling Institute and a political science professor at that university, insisted increased criticism of the proposal was taking its toll, including a social media campaign against the amendment.

"This movement away from support for Amendment 1 is a sign that the social media campaign is working,” Orlando said on Monday. “Opponents of Amendment 1 clearly don't have the financial power that the utility companies do, but they've been very effective at getting their message out via forums like Facebook.  In addition, the fact that almost every major newspaper has come out against the amendment has made this a much tighter race.”
 
When St. Leo provided more information on Amendment 1 including “the amendment may restrict my ability to lease solar equipment from third-party vendors,” “it may restrict the practice of sending back excess energy produced for an offset to my costs” and “Amendment 1 is supported by Florida utility companies,” support for the proposal dropped. 

“When the results above were factored into the institution’s calculations, support for Amendment 1 was actually only 35.4 percent,” the Saint Leo University Polling Institute noted in its release accompanying the poll. 
 
“Our data shows that the more the public knows about the possible consequences of Amendment 1, the less they like it,” Orlando insisted. 

The poll of 1,028 likely Florida voters was taken from Oct. 22 through Oct. 26 and had a margin of error of +/- 3 percent. 

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VOTE NO ON 1: Amendment 1 is a SCAM by the power companies in Florida to continue to scr*w us, the following leaked audit proves these lobbyist tricked us and tricked the Florida Supreme Court: http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/20161020/solar-advocates-say-leaked-audio-proves-amendment-1-is-deception Our average monthly electricity bill is higher than 90% of what the USA pays, our solar index is highest in the nation east of the Mississippi yet we are one of the lowest of solar power penetration. The power companies want to keep it that way by tricking us with Amendment 1, they've spent over $30 million on deceptive tv advertising as well. VOTE NO ON 1 !!!

Amen, spread the word! The major Florida power companies are deceiving many FL voters into making us think that they desire to help us and protect us from scammers. Lo and behold, they're the scammers of which we need to beware. Please work to inform your friends and family.

Here is a good synopsis of what the bill really is... http://grist.org/election-2016/will-floridas-voters-be-fooled-into-passing-an-anti-solar-amendment/?utm_campaign=daily-static&utm_medium=email&utm_source=edit-daily

I don't claim to be too terrible smart. But I read well. Anytime I read 2 paragraphs 3 times and still don't have a clue as to what it really says tells me everything I need to know. The only TV commercials you see are FOR #1. That is because the scumsucking power companies have plenty of our money to piss away in an attempt to further deceive and cheat us. VOTE NO ON # 1. And, long as you are there, VOTE FOR TRUMP

No for #1 and No for Trump!

Its funny all the negative things being said about Amendment 1 by the media . Yet at the top of your computer on a media website ......there are advertisements running constantly to READ AMENDMENT 1 for yourself and YES ON 1,, I guess the media outlets that are bashing amendment 1 aren't too against it to take the utilities advertisement money. .. I voted Yes on Amendment 1. I do not have any connections to any power companies. I live in an apartment complex like millions of other hard working folks. Living paycheck to paycheck. struggling .. I don't need a solar panel nor do I want one. I also dont want my electric bill to raise because folks that can afford solar will not be paying to keep the infrastructure in good shape, thus causing anarchy in a sense. Support our electrical grid and the companies that service and maintain them. I believe ,all customers that get solar should be disconnected from the electric grid completely. Lets see how they do then! Solar want their cake and eat it too, while the non solar customers pays the bills to keep the infrastructure and grid up to date. Support your first responders, which those include.. Firefighters, Paramedics, Police, and guess who else.. THE ELECTRIC COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!

FL solar users pay utilities a fee $35 per month, I'm not rich but a home owner and took out a home loan to pay for solar. My solar saves FL almost 60 Tons a year in CO2 gasses, and I have to pay the utility every month by law a fee of $35.00 to pay for the infrastructure you are crying about. Clearly as most, you don't even have your facts correct. I do AGREE with you 100%, if on solar, I should be allowed to leave the GRID. However, the greasy greedy utility companies and the idiots that are allowed to vote, makes it against the law to leave the GRID. As the utility takes my clean electric at wholesale, and sells it to you at retail and has the balks to charge you a fuel surcharge to boot, for fuel that was never used. You are a complete idiot and why the country is in the mess it's in. Get your facts straight before shooting off your month on nothing you know about.

And if you really think that those who have on grid solar systems are not paying to support the infrastructure then you are living in a real dream world. Finish a complete investigation on this and THEN post your findings and maybe fact supported opinions.

...so you support monopolies who will not allow people to disconnect from the grid, and who constantly raise your power rates and contribute to sea level rise, climate change, and dirty air which costs YOU money as a taxpayer, whether you wish to see it or not? The majority of people who have invested their own, hard earned dollars in solar panels are not ALLOWED to disconnect from the grid. If they could, they would, trust me. Another portion actually wants to produce clean power the try their best to do their part to promote clean air and water for guess what. You.

Its funny all the negative things being said about Amendment 1 by the media . Yet at the top of your computer on a media website ......there are advertisements running constantly to READ AMENDMENT 1 for yourself and YES ON 1.... I voted Yes on Amendment 1. I do not have any connections to any power companies. I live in an apartment complex like millions of other hard working folks. Living paycheck to paycheck. struggling .. I don't need a solar panel nor do I want one. I also dont want my electric bill to raise because folks that can afford solar will not be paying to keep the infrastructure in good shape, thus causing anarchy in a sense. Support our electrical grid and the companies that service and maintain them. I believe ,all customers that get solar should be disconnected from the electric grid completely. Lets see how they do then! Solar want their cake and eat it too, while the non solar customers pays the bills to keep the infrastructure and grid up to date. Support your first responders, which those include.. Firefighters, Paramedics, Police, and guess who else.. THE ELECTRIC COMPANY!!!!!!!!!!

Amendment 1 will NOT help the averge consumer -- it will hurt them. Having residential customers able to sell excess solar back to the power companies is helpful -- they have to buy less fossil fuels, which require expensive equipment to reduce air pollution when it burns. I love my power company, but they are being unfair to the consumer with this amendment, and you should not buy their $35 million (of your rate money) in propaganda.

Amendment 1 will NOT help the averge consumer -- it will hurt them. Having residential customers able to sell excess solar back to the power companies is helpful -- they have to buy less fossil fuels, which require expensive equipment to reduce air pollution when it burns. I love my power company, but they are being unfair to the consumer with this amendment, and you should not buy their $35 million (of your rate money) in propaganda.

You Must Vote NO on Amendment 1 if you ever want be to benefit from The power of free sunshine without paying the big power companies monopoly scheme to control the sale, installation and taxation of Their Own Solar systems. Voting NO meaning you get to pick your own solar panels, supplier, installer....and get to Sell your Excess power back to the Power Companies at Full Retail power prices....Vote NO !

Yes, but the average consumer does not use solar powered energy, so voting NO on Amendment 1 means the average consumer will have to pay more money to subsidize this excess energy being bought by the power companies / energy provided to solar panel users in case of solar equipment malfunction or inefficiency. People that use solar panels are still connected to the power grid, thus those that are not using solar panels are still paying for energy to be supplied to these solar power homes via taxes on infrastructure costs. I personally do not think that's fair. I'm all for using solar powered energy, but this is a prime example of having your cake and eating it too. TLDR: Vote YES Amendment 1

For someone who's so against big business, you sure have a strange taste in presidential nominees.

FPL is like all big company putting to the consumer again with there Admendment 1 by miss information an BS. Like they do not make huge profits all ready. Sad that things are like is US big company's run every thing

I just looked up on Lakeland electric website that they are implementing a new price plan that sounds a lot like amendment 1. http://www.lakelandelectric.com/customers/rate-information/solar-price-plan "Lakeland Electric customers who choose to install photovoltaic (PV) solar panels on their home after January 1st, 2016, will be assigned to a new price plan (also known as a “rate”), called the Residential Peak Demand (RPD) price plan." So they are going on with amendment 1 without the final vote on it. I believe they just might get away with it because no one is directly linking this new price plan to amendment 1.

So residential solar generates excess electricity during the day. It is sent to the 'grid' This gets consumed by the neighbors on the same distribution substation that don't have solar. They get charged full retail including fuel cost on that usage. That saves the utility from having to convert fuel to electric. It also saves the utility from the electricity lost in transmission and distribution. At the same time, the residential solar owner bears all the cost of installation and upkeep. To me, this makes their ad campaign that residential solar adds cost to everyone that doesn't have it a lie. A good question might be if solar adds to everyone else's cost why are utility companies putting in their own solar farms? Are they adding to everyone else's cost too?

The utility companies are investing in solar farms because THEY want to be the ones generating solar power, and they want to sell that power to US!

Let's see, picture this, a ton of suit-wearing board members that have always had a monopoly on Utilities in the state of Florida and the ability to control what people pay for energy. All sitting together to come up with this great idea to take some of that power away that they posses and also a way to make their pockets less fattened...hmmmm. Does that even make sense? If it does vote Yes then go get your head checked out. If the lightbulb just went off no pun intended VOTE NO on Amendment 1. FPL and Duke Energy are the heavyweight champions at killing the solar industry. By voting yes you are keeping up what they do on a normal basis. Allowing them to keep the Sunshine State from using the sunshine it produces. Once again vote no on Amendment 1!!!!

Solar should not be made "affordable" on the backs of those who choose not to use it. This is the same logic as Obamacare.

how does this increase your costs for those of you who dont have solar? Seriously, think about it

To answer your question, look to Arizona. Folks who opted for roof top solar panels were given legislatively mandated preferential rates for excess electricity sold back to the power company (i.e. they were contractually guaranteed to be paid more than the market price by the power company when they produced excess electricity and sold it back to the power company). This was dreamed up by the Arizona state legislature and offered as an incentive to convince more citizens to opt for solar installations. The power company, not being a charity, passed the increased cost of the expensive (legislatively mandated) rooftop generated electricity on to it's customers. Guess what, when the "non-solar" customers figured out why their bills went up and that that they were subsidizing the solar panels on their neighbors house, they were understandably angry.

NEE, the parent company of FPL, has received $1.9 billion in subsidies for renewable energy. This amendment does not address the worst abusers of energy subsidies, who are the power companies themselves. They want to keep their subsidies, and close out any potential competition from getting any other subsidies.

happening. Solar does not cost non-solar ratepayers money, it saves money for everyone (fuel savings, cost hedging, wear and tear savings, transmission and distribution savings, need for fewer plants, etc.. Notice pollution is not even counted in there?) don't believe what the utilities are telling you. Bottom line: if you don't like solar, vote YES. If you do want more solar, either for you or for others, vote NO.

To the contrary! Solar has put more power on the grid during peak times. California has saved over120 million by not having to build new power plants! Amendment 1 is trickery used by Utilities and Koch Brothers to keep their monopoly on big oil and keep solar away from Residents! Say Yes To Solar when it is the opposite is deceiving the public

Good thing. - losing steam that is. . . We need real efforts to promote solar. This is a deceptive attempt on the part of the power companies to maintain their monopoly on power. We need to say no to this Amendment and support real efforts to make us the true "Sunshine State."

Disgraceful that the utilities are intentionally deceiving Florida voters to protect their profits. FPL and Duke shareholders should replace the unethical executives that propagated this scam.

Great news but the fight is not over. I did a mass text notification to all my contacts letting them know about this Trojan horse amendment. I asked them all to Vote NO! on this sham amendment 1.

I agree with David and Rodney. This process is the way we got that horrible requirement of of small class size. I used to teach with 30-40 students and they LEARNED CIVICS and history in the 60's!!! Folks sign the petitions, not understanding and not having the issue debated so we end up with the gov't buying up more land (30% gov't owned in Fl.). Even a Fl. justice called the solar amendment a Trojan horse. Every word is important to read and understand its real intent!!!

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