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Could Ron Paul Leave the GOP and Go Third Party?
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Kevin DerbyCurrently making his second bid for the Republican presidential nomination, the Texas Republican has been engaged in third-party politics before -- as the Libertarian Party’s presidential nominee in 1988 and commending, to various degrees, three minor candidates in the 2008 general election: independent Ralph Nader, Green Party nominee former U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney of Georgia and Constitution Party nominee Chuck Baldwin.
While Paul, who retains one of the most loyal bases of supporters in American politics, has denied interest in making another third-party run in 2012, the door remains slightly open for, once again, leaving the GOP.
Earlier this week, Alexander Burns over at Politico examined recent media appearances by Paul and noted that the congressman from the Lone Star State repeatedly insists he has “no intention” of making a third-party run.
“If Paul really has absolutely no interest in running outside the GOP, a shorter answer would be ‘no.’ But he keeps going back to ‘no intention,’ a famously nonbinding construction,” wrote Burns.
While he is doing better at this stage in the game than he was back in the 2008 election cycle, Paul remains -- at best -- in the second tier of Republican hopefuls alongside Gov. Rick Perry of Texas and former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich.
Paul continues to draw heavy fire from Republican leaders and the conservative establishment. For example, conservative leader Gary Bauer, best known for leading the Family Research Council and running for the Republican presidential nomination and now leading the Campaign for Working Families PAC, slammed Paul in an email to supporters sent out on Tuesday.
“When it comes to foreign policy, Ron Paul's views are most often defined as ‘isolationism.’ But I am convinced Paul at heart is a pacifist,” Bauer wrote. “His foreign-policy views are dangerously naïve and, in my opinion, disqualify him from consideration to be our next commander in chief. Every time he opens his mouth, he sounds like appeaser Neville Chamberlain or the radicals at Code Pink.”
Bauer pointed to an interview Paul did with Fox News in which the Texas congressman downplayed the threat Iran poses.
“Seriously, Ron?” asked Bauer. “Iran is not a threat to us or anyone in the region? Ever heard of Hezbollah? What about the multitude of reports indicating that the IEDs blowing up our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have been coming out of Iran?
“Paul thinks we can join hands with the mullahs, sing 'Kumbaya' and all will be well,” continued Bauer. “Obama has tried the ‘kid gloves’ approach with Iran, and this week's expected IAEA reports will speak volumes about his success. The world remains a dangerous place, and America desperately needs a leader who has the will to defend freedom from tyranny here and abroad.”
Bauer ended with a jab at Paul’s appeals to religious conservatives.
“Paul said last week that he opposed the resolution reaffirming ‘In God We Trust’ as our national motto,” noted Bauer.
While the Republican leadership continues to pound away at Paul, the Texas congressman is doing better in straw polls this time around. For example, Paul scored a big win in the 2012 Illinois Republican Pre-Presidential Straw Poll which closed on Saturday. The event, which was open to Illinois voters who paid $5 to the state GOP, drew almost 3,650 voters online and in person. Balloting was open for a week.
Paul routed the field, taking 52 percent of the vote. Businessman Herman Cain took second with 18 percent and former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts took third with 14 percent. Gingrich took fourth with 9 percent. The rest of the field followed with none of them breaking 3 percent.

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Because Mr Paul does not agree with the invasion of a country or murder of innocent people, that makes him a pacifist? I believe that makes him qualified as a true leader.
[LAUGHS] THAT'S COMPLETE BULL[filtered word]!
Ron Paul is the real, consistent front-runner and has the best likelihood of becoming the GOP nominee and the 45th President of the United States. Ron Paul completely dominates almost any and all online polls, usually by complete and total landslide. More importantly, Ron Paul has won more in person voting straw polls than any other Republican candidate, several by complete landslide. That means Ron Paul has more real voters voting. Real voters and real votes. And they'll ALL be voting for Ron Paul in the GOP Primaries, just like the majority of the rest of the electorate.
Some straw polls:
- CPAC straw poll: Ron Paul wins: 30% Paul, 23% Romney. (3,742 participants)
- New Hampshire Young Republicans straw poll: Ron Paul wins: 45% Paul, 10% Romney, 8% Perry. (302 participants )
- Iowa GOP straw poll: Ron Paul 2nd: 27% Paul, 28% Bachmann (only 200 more votes than Paul). (17,000 participants , $30/each)
- California GOP straw poll: Ron Paul wins: 50% Paul, 29% Perry, 8% Romney. (833 participants)
- Values Voters summit GOP straw poll: Ron Paul wins: 37% Paul, 23% Cain, 16% Santorum. (3,400 participants )
- Ohio GOP straw poll: Ron Paul wins: 53% Paul, 25% Cain, 8% Romney. (428 participants, $25/each)
- Iowa NFRA straw poll: Ron Paul wins: 82% Paul, 14% Cain. (400 participants)
- Illinois GOP straw poll: Ron Paul wins: 52% Paul. (3,649 participants, $5/each)
ALL those above straw polls, minus Illinois, were ALL in person voters.
ALL real voters, ALL real votes, and they ALL count.
Ron Paul will win 2012. Get ready for it. :)
My intelligence is officially insulted.
I'm sure this won't get posted, but you should know that this is just sloppy journalism. Don't quit your day job.
I won't waste another vote for a puppet, be it Romney, Perry or the Grinch.
The choices are Paul or Obama. GOP better wake up!
Can it be a coincidence that in every town and hamlet across America this fantasy of Ron Paul running as a third candidate is being promoted? I don't think so.
These people cant build a solid foundation on mud.
Dr. Paul is here to save the day.
If you understood his foreign policy, you would not have said this statement. Ron Paul has said countless times that Iran is no real threat to the United States, he didn't say anything about the safety of troops in Hostile Countries.
Scenario: Lets say all troops are out of those countries....Ron Paul improves security in the u.s tenfold, how many troops or citizens of the U.S would be killed by Iran then? and dont say Iran will get a hold of a nuke and drop it in the states or ill be tempted to slap you.
There is absolutely no chance at all that a 3rd party candidate can win the presidency. Ron Paul knows this, he's already tried it, he won't waste his time or money attempting it.
We have a two party system, the media ignores everybody else. It's that simple. Who ran in the Libertarian party in 2008? Does anybody know? How about the Green party? How about the Constitution party?
Gee, you don't know? Well, that's our "media" fascist Pravda today. They don't inform you - but I bet you know what happened to Michael Jackson's doctor. The media is all over that, "informing" you of that relevant important "information".
That will GALVANIZE the military to support Paul to their last man. He already gets more donations than any other candidate from the military. Just imagine what he will get in support from them at the polls.
even these people are write articles must be stupid enough to forget the two definitions.
media to pretend Newton Leroy Gingrich
is more popular* than Ronald Ernest Paul
Let me first say: Why isn't anyone asking Romney, Cain, Bachman, or Perry this question?
Next, he would DEFINITELY get his 3rd party the necessary 3% popular vote for federal funding. I hope he does run.
In addition, Mr. Bauer's blatant hate comes from the fact that Dr. Paul's libertarian views keeps him from being discriminatory against the LGBT community. Mr. Bauer is simply an opulent biggot with a bible.
This article does not report the term "Non-interventionist" which is what Dr. Paul actually is. Bauer is a demagogue and a biggot who feels really threatened that the GOP is changing. We have to be very careful about people like this who use the guise of being a "good" Christian to influence politics. God is good, but using his name in the name of politics against your neighbour is blasphamous. Bauer is war-drumming sycophant.
Thomas Aquinas says that “it is clear that blasphemy, which is a sin committed directly against God, is more grave than murder, which is a sin against one's neighbor. … it is called the most grievous sin, for as much as it makes every sin more grievous. Shame on you Mr. Bauer, shame on you.
The media, much like this article keep referring to polls and the data which they claim are sound data; they keep forgetting to inform their readers that all poll data is bogus and use a small sample size. The data is flawed, irrelavent and should not be reported. The odds of a for-profit poll company predicting who is going to be the president in 2012 are poor at best, dog has better odds of choosing a winner. Reporting flawed poll data from the likes of Rasmussen et al in news stories is propagandist because you're simply amplying bad data to serve your points of view. So, discard polls and their data--vote with your moral compass. Vote Ron Paul--the soldiers who support him can't be wrong.
We demand that our politicians be constrained by the Constitution, not free use of 'executive order' to propagate endless "wars".
We demand peaceful trade with other nations and keeping our nose out of others' business as our forefathers advised.
We demand defense of OUR borders, not Afghanistan and Israels.
We demand an end to the military empire, not to our defense.
Ron Paul is these things so smear him with the taint of 'pacifist' and 'isolationist'.
We are done voting for the status quo. Give us Ron Paul as the GOP nominee or endure four more years of Obama. In our opinion, one form of tyranny is the same as the other.
Ron Paul is being pestered about this so much when he has made it clear he is not running that it will become irrelevant. If the GOP and media treat him badly enough, I can't see his supporters voting for the nominee. If you want him to act like he is a part of the party, treat him fairly as if you really believed he is.