Politics

Shutdown Nears as Democrats Boot Military Pay

Obama calls Defense spending measure a 'distraction' as Friday deadline looms
By: Kenric Ward | Posted: April 8, 2011 3:55 AM
Barack Obama, John Boehner and Harry ReidPresident Barack Obama, Speaker John Boehner and Senator Harry Reid
"Non-essential" federal employees will be getting an extended weekend if Republicans and Democrats in Washington don't reach a spending agreement by midnight Friday.

How long workers would be off the job is anyone's guess, as congressional negotiators and President Barack Obama continued to spar into the night Thursday.

Roughly one in four workers who collect federal paychecks could be furloughed in a government shutdown beginning Saturday. Military personnel and Postal Service workers are exempt from any layoffs.

On Thursday, the House passed a resolution that would keep the government running for a week and fund the Department of Defense through Sept. 30, the end of the fiscal year.

But Senate Democrats summarily rejected the military-pay plan, which cut $12 billion in short-term spending and curtailed abortion funding.

Obama called the bill a "distraction" and vowed to veto the measure if it got to his desk.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said Democrats would be "happy" to pass a "clean" stopgap funding bill -- meaning an extension of current funding levels without any policy riders.

House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, responded that the Senate's refusal to pass the bill puts the Democrats in the position of blocking military pay during a shutdown.

"President Obama and the Democrats are effectively saying the military are 'non-essential' personnel," said one Republican insider.

Rep. Sandy Adams, R-Orlando, told Sunshine State News:

“It's shameful for the president to call funding our troops a distraction. While our military men and women are fighting to keep America free in the face of three conflicts -- one of which he engaged in at the behest of the U.N. Security Council instead of the American people -- we have an obligation to make sure they are being paid."

Rep. Tom Rooney, R-Tequesta, noted: "Our troops and their families have sacrificed too much already to become victims of the Senate Democrats’ failure to lead -- or even follow -- on a long-term bill to fund the government and cut spending."

Reid lashed back at Republicans for "focusing on ideological matters." He told reporters that the sticking point in negotiations involved GOP provisions on abortion and other nonspending measures introduced into the budget proposal.

Boehner said, Republicans were not proposing “any deal-breaker” and that “all of these policy issues are continuing to be on the table.”

“Our goal here is to cut spending, not to shut down the government," he said.

Adams said the GOP-controlled House continues to uphold its end of Congress's budget-making responsibility.

"The House passed a long-term budget plan 47 days ago that would continue to fund the government at responsible budget levels, but Senate Democrats refuse to take action," she noted.

That GOP bill cut spending by $61 billion.

Democratic negotiators say they're willing to consider $33 billion in reductions over the same period.

Obama has complained that a budget agreement "could have gotten done three months ago."

But Republicans pointed out that Democrats previously controlled both houses of Congress, yet failed to even propose a budget for the current fiscal year.

The political and fiscal brinksmanship on Capitol Hill reflects a closely divided public. Recent opinion polls show American voters split evenly on who to blame for the impasse. A Washington Post poll released Monday showed 37 percent blame Democrats, 37 percent blame Republicans and 15 percent blame both parties.

Those figures differ significantly from 1995, when Republicans were widely criticized for a government shutdown during Bill Clinton's presidency.

Comments (26)

5:56PM APR 8TH 2011
Wow! Reading some of the comments - reflects ME FIRST, Zero understanding what is at stake,
(survival of USA), and no knowledge of economics. THERE IS NO MORE MONEY ! DUH !
USA CANNOT SUBSTAIN OUR CURRENT DEBT & DEMOCRATS DO WANT TO SHUT DOWN GOV'T, TO COVER THE FACT THAT THEY NEVER WANTED TO AGREE- SO THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR TALKING POINTS & ARE READY TO WHINE = (HOPING THE CITIZENS DO NOT REALIZE THE FACTS) TTHE DEMO ARE READY = TO ACCUSE REP. OF STEALING, BLOCKING FOOD, HATING CHILDREN, POOR WELFARE FOLKS (WHO ENJOY A BETTER LIFESTYLE THAN SOME OTHERS,
ETC. GET READY FOR THE B.S. AND HOPE SOME OF YOU REALIZE THAT THE DEMO'S NEVER
WANTED TO PLAY - THIS WAS THEIR PLAN SINCE LAST YEAR.
EITHER SAY USA OR FALL LIKE ARGENTINA......
Conrad Fitzhume
6:26PM APR 8TH 2011
Yup things are looking pretty bad (financially) for our country. It's a shame that the GOP continues to cut the tax contributions of the wealthiest Americans (aka their campaign supporters who already use every loophole in the book to avoid paying their fair share. Some of these people receive 1000 times what a decent middle class job pays) while doing everything in their power to destroy the middle class.
Conrad Fitzhume
12:47PM APR 8TH 2011
Kinda like when the House & Senate Republicans held the Zadroga 9/11 First Responder Health Bill hostage until Democrat's succumbed the the GOP DEMAND that tax breaks for the wealthiest 2% of Americans be continued. This while heroes were dying weekly. IMHO (as a registered member of the GOP) The Republicans are clearly not the friend of the middle class, first responders or our heroic military. They are the friends of the wealthiest corporate types only (aka: their rich campaign supporters).

BTW: Before passing the 9/11 Health Bill (the last action by Congress & the Senate on Dec. 22, 2010), (patriotic?) GOP members cut the funding in 1/2 and only 31 GOP members voted for it with 59 Republican's against it & 89 who didn't vote at all ... why? ... Because they left D.C. before the Nation's business was completed and went home for Christmas. Obviously the health of the very same First Responders who Republicans wanted their pictures taken with ... and then used those photos in their election campaigns suddenly was totally unimportant to them...
katrina
2:13PM APR 8TH 2011
you know what just blows my mind, that a few months ago our gov't decided that we didn't need to tax the rich more because they were going to create "jobs". jobs at like walmart and mcdonalds, because thats where everyone wants to work. in fact walmart employees have to fill out a welfare form because they don't make enough money working to support themselves. however now we are facing a gov't shutdown because of horrible leadership ie the tea party fasicists and the anti abortion republicans. i'm in the u.s. army. i am a single mother and i didn't even make 30,000 last year. why is it that the military has to suffer from this. i'd like for those congressmen and women who convienentally get like 10,000 dollar bonuses every like 6 months to contribute thier paychecks to pay the military. it kills my soul to know we live in a country where the rich are getting richer and the poor are growing poorer. wtf america. how has this happened? i'm don't want to watch this country slowly become a dictatorship but i feel like one of two things are on the brink for our people. 1 we will indeed become a dictatorship and most americans won't even realize it or 2 there is going to be a revolt to get these leaders out of these positions. no matter what the outcome i'm glad that people are starting to wake up from the fantasy that we thought we lived in
PW
10:49AM APR 8TH 2011
I have already posted a comment but what gets me is they say we can still function in Iraq and Afghanistan. Well, I am in Afghanistan and I am the Disbursing Agent in one of the sites. If the budget does not pass, I can not issue funds to the teams fighting in the field. They are living out there 24/7 and are about to do it wihout funds. Much of that money I issue goes to locals that are helping us. What happens now if the locals arent getting paid? They turn to the other side!!!! I could issue under a CRA but not a shutdown. THINK ABOUT THAT ON CAPITOL HILL!!!!
Robocop
8:04PM APR 8TH 2011
I understand the military going without pay and believe me I sympathize I really do it's sad and not something any of us want as civies..... EXCEPT I'M TIRED OF PAYING AFGHANI'S AND IRAQI'S BILLS ..... PAY YOUR OWN WAY AND STOP MOOCHIN OFF THE US..... as for the Troops, chin up folks we're doing what we can to put the screw to the government and get them to work it out. I still think we should remove the Troops in all foriegn countries and bring em home and let the countries implode for all I care.
Alyssa Dirksen
10:09AM APR 8TH 2011
Imagine waking up everyday before the sun comes up and putting on workout shorts in the middle of winter because you are told you have to, and driving to a 12 to 15 hour day of work where it starts out with strenuous workouts and verbal abuse from superiors. Imagine waking up on the ground in a small tent to shards from a mortar round embedding into your arms and chest because you were ambushed in the middle of the night by the enemy while at war. Imagine having everything you do monitored and your freedom being taken. Imagine doing all this for free... Our amazing soldiers who deserve admiration and respect, give up their freedom, their families, and their lives so we can have ours. They have the most important job in this nation, and to say they are nonessential is heartbreaking. What happened to the days where 54 day filibusters were held in order for the right thing to be done. Our nation is becoming more like a dictatorship everyday and it is disheartening. The Bill of Rights was passed because it was constitutional. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed because it was the right thing to do. Not everyone was in agreement in every situation, but surely everyone should have compassion for our soldiers and their families. Where are the senators, house of representatives, and cabinets of the old days. Our priorities have really changed, we have become a greedy people, and this makes me ashamed to be American. Every voter should feel the same way. Very sad.
Sha
4:36PM APR 13TH 2011
I agree. And good thing I haven't voted yet. But I do find myself following polotics more and more these days at 25 years old than I ever did before, especially now that I am starting my own family, which INCLUDES military. I do agree we a re a greedy people these days. And all I can hope for is that the voters who DO vote in our and for our future will VOTE out the greedy ones and find some GOOD HONEST and RIGHT people to make the choices we cannot make for our slowly-feeling-like-failing country.
Robert Lloyd
2:51PM APR 8TH 2011
>>Our amazing soldiers who deserve admiration and respect, give up their freedom, their families, and their lives so we can have ours.<<

I don't want to see the American soldiers get hurt... but they are not overseas protecting my freedom. They are there killing innocent women and children... they are NOT there for me. What they are there for is anybody's guess, probably for the Zionists.

If you truly care for the soldiers, stand up and say you want them brought home. Get them home and have them march on Washington where they can do some good. Remember, enemies foreign 'and domestic.' The domestic enemies must be living in Washington. Look at this mess.
Nas Esmeralda
6:34PM APR 8TH 2011
>>but they are not overseas protecting my freedom. They are there killing innocent women and children... they are NOT there for me. What they are there for is anybody's guess, probably for the Zionists.<<

I just came back from Afghanistan 6 days ago and I was there 12 months. The whole year I was there (FOB Kutschbach, Tagab, Kapisa Province), non of the locals got hurt from our offensive against Taliban. We were there to help out the locals move on. It's shameful on your side accusing us that we are there murdering innocent women and children. It's a slap in the face, no...more like a spit coming from someone who's never seen combat, who's never been there and interact with the people of Afghanistan. When the locals get hurt from Taliban's harassment, WE were there to help them out and cure the ones who were hurt. We never attack anybody for no reason. We never discharge no weapon UNLESS the Taliban shoots first. I was there. I've seen it. You're a fool for you to say such things.
11:04AM APR 8TH 2011
Thank you for saying so eloquently what many are feeling at present.
Robert
9:02AM APR 8TH 2011
They want to stop pay for the military hmmm but you never hear lets cut the pay of the house of representatives or congress or the cabinet. They can receive full pay checks but us Soldiers have to suck it up and drive because the government can't get their act together. So instead you take our pay checks as soldiers when we fight when told without questions. Its unbelieveable how the government has gone to the worse. When congress, the house of representatives and the cabinet should receive a paycheck cut to help pay for the soldiers pay. why don't take all the soldiers out of Iraq and Afghanistan and stop spending all that money for ammunition.
IMMilitary
8:25AM APR 8TH 2011
Interestingly enough, we members of the US Armed Forces don't care about which party is to blame. We just want the paycheck that we've rightfully earned. I'm a single parent supporting two kids. When I can't afford my electric and water bills, my kids don't care about which party is to blame. Ladies and Gentlemen, we've elected you, we fight to defend your freedom, get the job done.
Sha
4:46PM APR 13TH 2011
Abso-freakin-lutely!!!!!!
1Bigbeam
7:37AM APR 8TH 2011
Funny, the Postal and Military Service ARE within the "CHAINS of the CONSTITUTION", making them NECESSARY and proper. Further study might reveal other Constitutionally authorized functions that can be allowed and funded in our Republic's budget. Everything else, well, let it circle the toilet, starting with the UN!
1Bigbeam
7:31AM APR 8TH 2011
Funny, the Postal and Military Service ARE within the "CHAINS of the CONSTITUTION", making them NECESSARY and proper. Further study might reveal other Constitutionally authorized functions that can be allowed and funded in our Republic's budget. Everything else, well, let it circle the toilet, starting with the UN!
MaySmith
6:56AM APR 8TH 2011
yeah just because we get back pay doesn't mean we can pay for all our bills....you say savings?....I used my to go home for a three family members death...what now?...both my husband and I are E-3 with less than three years....check the chart...yeah with a monthly rent, electric bills, car payments, insurrance, phones( need for contacting family so far away), misc...and foodI am getting tired of people saying backpay, they get backpay ....I stand 24 hours duty...without overtime....I work 24/7 for pennies to the hour....regardless it will affect many of my fellow services memebersI serve my country proudly and I wear the uniform with honor.
Sha
4:49PM APR 13TH 2011
I know it isn't much MaySmith-Unfortunately- It's all Iv'e got to offer... But I thank you from the bottom of my heart, with lots of love and appreciation as a civilian.....Thank you SO SO SO very much!!!
Judy Huff
6:04AM APR 8TH 2011
I agree with you Brian. I have no clue on what all the government is wanting to cut but I will tell you this. Anytime you have a Senator or Congress person making as much money as the President of the United States there is something wrong there. What needs to go on is they need for one to stop giving them selves pay raises and cut THEIR pay drastically. It's sad to think that all the men and women in our military are serving with their life and these people are living it up sitting on their butts eating fine food, driving expensive cars and living in extremely nice houses. What does our military people have that are deployed? Well I know it's none of the above I mentioned plus they have to cover their heads hoping to be able to make it home alive and not in a body bag. My daughters soon to be fiancee went to a military college so he could have a career in the military plus take care of a family when they decide to have one. It's sad to think that they have to not only worry about his life on the line but also now having to worry about paying their bills. The military men and women have been through enough. They shouldn't have to worry about if their family have enough sources to take care of the finances while they are deployed. OUR government and yes I said OUR need to think about who put them in the offices they are in and think about how they are hurting America. They don't really give a damn about us. The food, gas and everything else keep going up and we have more cuts and they get richer because they are paid also by the oil companies to. So Brian I want to thank you for serving in our military and protecting us and keeping us FREE. You and all military people deserve the payment you were suppose to get and not half.
PW
5:55AM APR 8TH 2011
WOW I didnt realize the military was a distraction. Is it a distraction that I am in Afghanistan right now? Is it a distraction i still have at least 6 more months? Is it a distraction to the government that this is my family's sole source of income? Is it a distraction that my wife and three kids will not have money to pay the mortgage, buy food or basically have any source of income, period? WHAT THE [filtered word] ARE THEY THINKING?????
Veteran
7:29AM APR 8TH 2011
Obama didn't say the military was a distraction. He said that Congress putting time into patchwork legislation rather than focusing on passing a budget which solves all problems was a distraction.
Izzie Rodriguez
5:24AM APR 8TH 2011
I am a Proud Marine Wife. And the people up there need to stop gambling our troops' money. Why don't they take a pay cut? This will affect thousands and thousands of families! How are we suppose to eat, pay our bills, and feed our children. What I don't understand is this "non-essenisal" personel!? These service members are the reason we can all sleep safely. They are protecting us and this country and this is how the "government" is paying their thanks?! These service members, especially the troops that are deployed are risking their lives to protect the lives of everyone! How can our government let this happen? We have Americas back but I guess no one has ours!
Brian Willis
4:45AM APR 8TH 2011
So, I see in here that it says that postal workers and millitary would be exempt. Well..... I am a deployed solder. 8 year veteran of 3 combat tours, Wife and 2 kids. Got my LES for my next check today and over half was taken. I thought maybe it was a mistake so I had a buddy check his, same, squad leader the same, NCOIC the same. I am in the national guard and some of the people that are here are take HUGE paycuts just to come on these deployments. Put themselves in a hardship to help. AND THIS IS THE THANKS WE GET FROM OUR GOVERNMENT. I vote that the old people that are sitting up there making these decisions, making twice what a deployed soldier makes, GET THEIR BUTTS OVER HERE AND FIGHT THIS WAR FOR WHAT WE ARE MAKING. Beings we are "non esential personelle".
crystal
8:14AM APR 8TH 2011
i totally agree with you on this. i am appalled.
Judy Huff
6:00AM APR 8TH 2011
I agree with you Brian. I have no clue on what all the government is wanting to cut but I will tell you this. Anytime you have a Senator or Congress person making as much money as the President of the United States there is something wrong there. What needs to go on is they need for one to stop giving them selves pay raises and cut THEIR pay drastically. It's sad to think that all the men and women in our military are serving with their life and these people are living it up sitting on their butts eating fine food, driving expensive cars and living in extremely nice houses. What does our military people have that are deployed? Well I know it's none of the above I mentioned plus they have to cover their heads hoping to be able to make it home alive and not in a body bag. My daughters soon to be fiancee went to a military college so he could have a career in the military plus take care of a family when they decide to have one. It's sad to think that they have to not only worry about his life on the line but also now having to worry about paying their bills. The military men and women have been through enough. They shouldn't have to worry about if their family have enough sources to take care of the finances while they are deployed. OUR government and yes I said OUR need to think about who put them in the offices they are in and think about how they are hurting America. They don't really give a damn about us. The food, gas and everything else keep going up and we have more cuts and they get richer because they are paid also by the oil companies to. So Brian I want to thank you for serving in our military and protecting us and keeping us FREE. You and all military people deserve the payment you were suppose to get and not half.
Judy Huff
5:48AM APR 8TH 2011
I agree with you Brian. I have no clue on what all the government is wanting to cut but I will tell you this. Anytime you have a Senator or Congress person making as much money as the President of the United States there is something wrong there. What needs to go on is they need for one to stop giving them selves pay raises and cut THEIR pay drastically. It's sad to think that all the men and women in our military are serving with their life and these people are living it up sitting on their butts eating fine food, driving expensive cars and living in extremely nice houses. What does our military people have that are deployed? Well I know it's none of the above I mentioned plus they have to cover their heads hoping to be able to make it home alive and not in a body bag. My daughters soon to be fiancee went to a military college so he could have a career in the military plus take care of a family when they decide to have one. It's sad to think that they have to not only worry about his life on the line but also now having to worry about paying their bills. The military men and women have been through enough. They shouldn't have to worry about if their family have enough sources to take care of the finances while they are deployed. OUR government and yes I said OUR need to think about who put them in the offices they are in and think about how they are hurting America. They don't really give a damn about us. The food, gas and everything else keep going up and we have more cuts and they get richer because they are paid also by the oil companies to. So Brian I want to thank you for serving in our military and protecting us and keeping us FREE. You and all military people deserve the payment you were suppose to get and not half.

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