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Florida Republicans Back Military Trials for Terrorists
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More than nine years after the 9/11 attacks, two Florida Republicans in Congress, both of whom are receiving some attention as possible candidates to take on Democratic U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson in 2012, introduced measures on how the United States tries captured terrorists.
Responding to the Obama administration, which has backed holding civilian trials for terrorists, on Wednesday U.S. Rep. Vern Buchanan introduced the “Military Tribunals for Terrorists Act” which would have captured terrorists tried as enemy combatants in military court instead of facing criminal charges.
“The American people are outraged that foreign terrorists who have declared war on America are being tried in civilian courts,” insisted Buchanan, who introduced a similar measure in previous sessions. “Terrorists with ties to known terror organizations such as al-Qaida should not be afforded the same constitutional protections as American citizens, nor should sensitive homeland security and intelligence information be publicized in open, civilian court proceedings.
“Using military tribunals to interrogate, prosecute, and sentence foreign terrorists who conspire, attempt, or attack the United States and its people is a far better way to handle these kinds of sensitive matters,” added Buchanan. “Military tribunals protect U.S. intelligence sources and methods from being revealed in open court.”
Buchanan announced on Wednesday that key members of the Republican leadership -- namely U.S. Rep. Buck McKeon of California who chairs the Armed Services Committee, U.S. Rep. Mike Rogers of Michigan who leads the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and U.S. Rep. Lamar Smith of Texas who chairs the House Judiciary Committee -- are all co-sponsoring the bill. On Wednesday, the three committee chairmen weighed in.
“Foreign terrorists are just that, foreign citizens who terrorize the United States – not common criminals,” said Rogers. “They are not entitled to the same rights as U.S. citizens and should be treated as such. Congressman Buchanan’s bill ensures that they are treated as enemy combatants who are interrogated for valuable intelligence and tried in military tribunals, not U.S. civilian courts.”
“Rep. Buchanan’s efforts will make our country safer,” insisted McKeon. “Terrorists who are engaged in a war against America must be treated as enemy combatants -- not common criminals -- and should be prosecuted in accordance with the laws of warfare.”
“The first Gitmo detainee trial in civilian courts was a near disaster,” noted Smith. “Though Ahmed Ghailani was sentenced to life in prison for his role in the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies, he was convicted of only one count out of 285 charges. And the case isn’t over yet. Because Ghailani was acquitted of terrorism and murder charges, his attorneys will try to overturn the conspiracy verdict on appeal.
“Terrorists are enemy combatants, not common criminals,” continued Smith. “They commit acts of war against the American people, not crimes. They should be tried at military commissions, not in civilian courts where they have access to the same rights as U.S. citizens. The Military Tribunals for Terrorists Act makes sure that foreign terrorists are tried in military tribunals, not civilian courts. Military tribunals have served the nation well since the Revolutionary War and we should continue to use them.”
Buchanan is not the only member of the Florida delegation to take up the issue.
On Monday, Republican U.S. Rep. Tom Rooney brought out the “Detainee Trials at Gitmo Act” mandating all captured terrorists held in Guantanamo Bay face military trials at that base.
“Military commissions are fair and provide due process for the accused, but they also protect critical intelligence officials and evidence,” said Rooney. “Foreign terrorists should absolutely not receive the same rights and privileges as American citizens do.
“The constitutional and legal standards for evidence-gathering and prosecution in a civilian case are simply not adequate for the trial of an enemy combatant,” added Rooney, pointing to his background as JAG attorney and as instructor of constitutional law at West Point. “As a former military prosecutor, I strongly believe that trying detainees in military tribunals at Guantanamo Bay is the best way to hold terrorists accountable, keep them out of the United States, and prevent them from rejoining the fight.”
Rooney and Buchanan have both received some buzz as potential candidates to take on Nelson in 2012. Other Republicans who are considering running include former U.S. Sen. George LeMieux, U.S. Rep. Connie Mack, U.S. Rep. Daniel Webster, Senate President Mike Haridopolos, former House Majority Leader Adam Hasner, businessman Mike McCalister and businessman Nick Loeb.
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Former Democrat President Clinton left office with a 800 billion dollar surplus! Republican President G.W. Bush receive that surplus and turn it into a 13 trillion dollar debt! During the time Bush was in office destroying America. With his horrible decisions. NEVER did you hear from Hannity, Palin, Beck and Rush. Claims of run away spending against the Bush‘s administration! NEVER!!!! Republicans pass a prescription plan NOT PAID FOR! Started a war in Iraq for NOTHING ( 4,400 and counting military dead for NOTHING)….. NOT PAID FOR! Started another war in Afghanistan with no plan….NOT PAID FOR! There was over a trillion dollars of taxpayer money to date under Bush! Not accounted for in Iraq! Republican today continue to charge President Obama’s administration with spending out of control! To date President Obama’s administration spend 1.5 Trillion dollars in two and a half years! The different between Bush and Obama most of that money was to stop the financial downfall Bush and the Republicans create! (1.) Stimulus Package 750 billion (2.) Unemployment 10 billion (3.) Military 300 billion! All necessary to keep America running! Unlike the Bush administration President Obama is spending money on the American people! To date 500 billion has been paid back from the stimulus package. In the end the stimulus package will earn America 300 billion in profit! To date know one ever talks about the 350 billion dollar stimulus package Bush spent. Nor how did it help or where did it go! Yet President Obama (who is clearly for all Americans) is criticize and called names! For doing the right thing for America! The last time a Republican President had a balance budget was under former President Eisenhower ! The last time the government was shut down was under Republican controlled house! There is so much evident to show how irresponsible and unprofessional Republicans are! Republican model is to take from the poor and the middleclass and give to the rich and super rich! There other model is when you have nothing to say resort to hate and dividing the country!
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I’m a internet junkie that read many website. When I go on the Republican websites attacking President Obama is their main focus! Calling President Obama a racist, socialist and claiming he is not a American. Attacking his name and his wife and family members are there focus! Criticizing any and everything President Obama propose or just thinks about! Calling President Obama the worse President EVER! In just two years and a couple of months in office these people could twist their month to think that President Obama is the worse President EVER! President Obama came into office after Republican President G.W. Bush turn a surplus into a 13 trillion debt started two wars. One in Afghanistan the other in Iraq. The Iraq War was started on a LIE and was continue after finding out it was a LIE for NOTHING! Over 4,400 and counting American troop dead for NOTHING! Yet these people on these Republican website call President Obama the worse President EVER! These sick people don’t respect life of the fact that those men and women of the military gave their lives for them and their country base on a lie! President Obama is pulling out of Iraq President Obama establish a plan in Afghanistan. Something that WAS NOT done under Bush! President Obama’s stimulus plan stop the downfall of America’s financial downfall and gave tax cuts to Americans! To this day no one explain what Bush stimulus plan DID! President Obama save the automobile industry and many auto workers jobs! President Obama overturn don’t asked don’t tell so gays that sacrifice their life’s are treated equal! Fifteen pass President tried and fail to get Universal Healthcare plan pass President Obama did it! Speaker of the House John Boehner (R-Ohio) knows that internet lies and hatred of President Obama speak to their racist white base! That is why he does not condemn white ignorance hatred and believe of lies about President Obama!
The US Declaration of Independence reads:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
That document is the basis for the American dream.
Torture, secret trials, secret evidence, will turn the American dream into a nightmare.
Have you already forgotten that lots of those held at Guantanamo were INNOCENT? And held for years without reasonable access to habeas corpus?
Do you really feel that it's ok to treat others that way just because they are not US citizens?
I don't.
As Americans we rely on the military to protect and defend us, not the court system and when terrorist crimes are committed that is not something to be decided in a civil courtroom. Civil courts will never be privy to Top Secret Military data and therefore unable to make a fully informed decision, war criminals should be tried as such by military rules.
So, what is Vern's fear. All the Republican pants wetting about Islamic grandstanding doesn't happen. The terrorists get the same justice that they've gotten since Clinton, and both Bush's and nothing happened. Super-Max prison STILL works just fine. The terrorists don't acquire Super Villain powers at the trials. They don't use super powers to break out of Super Max holding cells where these guys are held in near solitary.
The system works. Just like it did under the previous Presidents. These are no boogy man, so man up Republicans. These are just scum mortals and do not need to be elevated to some kind of celebrity military status. Why give them the superior standing of military combatants when they are merely ignorant thugs.
They so desire to be feared. That's why they are known as terrorists. Don't give them more. Republican's have played our country to the terrorist's tune for too damn long.
Is Vern saying' "Be scared - and vote for the used car salesman, again!"?
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