Politics

Florida Supreme Court Hears Rick Scott’s Appeal of Pension Reform Smackdown

By: Eric Giunta | Posted: September 7, 2012 2:00 PM
Rick Scott and Charles Canady

Gov. Rick Scott and Justice Charles Canady

The Supreme Court of Florida heard oral arguments Friday morning in an appeal by Republican Gov. Rick Scott’s administration of a March ruling by a circuit judge overturning key elements of the Legislature's 2011 reform of the state employee retirement system.

On March 6, Judge Jackie Fulford of the 2nd Judicial Circuit Court of Florida struck down two particularly controversial provisions of last year’s Senate Bill 2100. She ruled as unconstitutional the bill’s requirement that all employees, regardless of when hired, pay 3 percent of their salary toward their pension. Her ruling upheld the law with regard to those hired after July 1, 2011.

Fulford, ruling in favor of the public-sector unions which brought the suit, found that the changes were unconstitutional on three grounds:

  • They constituted an unlawful impairment of employees’ contracts with the state of Florida.
  • They were effectively an exercise of eminent domain without due compensation to those employees who had their property (i.e., expected benefits) taken from them.
  • The Legislature violated state employees’ state constitutional right to collectively bargain over the terms and conditions of their employment.


At 9 a.m. Friday morning, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments as lawyers for the Scott administration and the unions took turns fielding questions from the justices as to why Fulford’s ruling should be overturned or upheld.

Overall, the justices appeared skeptical of the unions’ claim that the Legislature is constitutionally precluded from ever changing the compensation owed to state employees for work that hasn’t yet been performed.

Referring to a 1974 statute which said that the retirement plan established by law constituted a legally binding contract, Justice Charles Canady asked Ron Meyer, an attorney for the Florida Education Association, “Was it really the intent of the Legislature to bind itself forever, no matter what a future budget crisis might bring? That they may only increase benefits [for those already employed by the state], but never decrease them?”

Clearly frustrated with what he thought were weak arguments by Myer, but maintaining his good humor, Canady later remarked, “We all agree an employee of the state can be discharged. I have a hard time understanding how someone who does not have a continuing right to employment can have a continuing right to a benefit of employment. That just doesn’t make sense to me.”

Justice Barbara Pariente seemed similarly skeptical, if less colorful in her grilling.

“What motivation would the Legislature have had to handcuff themselves in this manner?,” she asked.

Justice R. Fred Lewis seemed open to the possibility that some state employee contracts, on a case-by-case basis, might protect against decrease of future benefits, but not all of them.

“Some contracts do say the state employer can do this [i.e., change benefits for future work], some say they can’t,” he said. “If a contract exists saying an employer can do this, how does an employer doing this violate the worker’s rights? Some of these contracts [explicitly] say the Legislature can alter future benefits.”

“Can you have a violation of constitutional rights, even if you’ve voluntarily waived them away?,” Lewis asked.

“Conceivably,” was Myer’s reply.

One question the justices tried to get a handle on was just how broad the scope of the Florida constitutional right to collectively bargain was.

“If they have right to collectively bargain, you don’t believe that someone on behalf of state must negotiate with public employees before any change in the law?” Pariente asked former Supreme Court justice Raoul Cantero, who argued the case on behalf of the state.

“That would be impossible,” Cantero averred. “Not only are there 11 state bargaining units, but there are hundreds of such units on county and municipal levels. How can you possibly negotiate with each of them?”

The hearing lasted for about 40 minutes, after which Gov. Scott issued a press release predicting a successful outcome to the case.

“This case is about our efforts to maintain a responsible and sustainable budget for the state of Florida,” Scott said. “Prior to this reform, Florida was one of only three states that did not require public employees to contribute to their pensions.”

Scott continued, “The legal question in the case is straightforward. The Legislature relied on and carefully followed a 30-year-old Florida Supreme Court case, which held that the Legislature can change the public pension system on a going-forward basis. We therefore expect the Supreme Court to follow its own prior decision.”

If the Supreme Court upholds the lower court’s ruling, it might require the state to refund, with interest, more than 655,000 state and local government workers who’ve seen a reduction in their benefits since July 2011. It would also purportedly leave as much as a $2 billion hole in the state budget.


Reach Eric Giunta at egiunta@sunshinestatenews.com or at (850) 727-0859.


Comments (13)

Deborah
1:37PM JAN 16TH 2013
Rick Scott stated he spend money on upgrading the Valusia County radio systems. Our retirement money should not be use for upgrading, this is hard earned investment money for future living when we are older and not able to work. This money should be in an untouchable fund during this procedings. We work hard and put our time in to accumulate monies for our future with a binding contract with the Florida Retirement System and he is able to go shopping and upgrade materials things, such as radio systems, buildings, cars. Are we back in slavery where mister can do anything he wants. This is suppose to be the land of free not a communisn country. This kind of act will set us back 100 years. Scott is using his position to rob the workings in the Florida Retirement system. The system is not giving us anything we worked for it unlike Rick Scott. This is just as illegal as going in our saving account taking our money without permission.
Sandy
1:46PM JAN 11TH 2013
I've got an idea. Since the Supreme Court Justices only work one week a month for 11 months why not propose legislation to cut their pay and benefits to 1/4 of what it is now. I wonder if they would view that as a breach of contract?
Donald E Anderson
1:37PM JAN 7TH 2013
Is there a time when the Supreme court will make a ruling on this appeal?
pissed
8:40AM SEP 24TH 2012
THE KICKER IS, the money taken out of the pockets of the lowest paid workers in the state does not even go to the Florida Retirement system. Gov. Scott has opted to ploace the money into the general fund. HMMMM, I wonder how many workers getting ready to retire will see a penny of the 3% stolen from us.
The state and local teachers, fire fighters and police are the ONLY residents paying a state tax to the FRS. WHY I ask you, no one else in this state pays a state tax but us.......Think about it.
Jeffrey Samples
1:43PM SEP 13TH 2012
Maybe, just maybe, if Rick Scott would stop wasting money by appealing every court case there would be a balaced budget.
justices for all
9:47PM SEP 11TH 2012
Can someone please tell MR Rick Scott that he is taking money out of the pockets of the people who teach his kids and keep his dumb butt safe. How can you expect a better tomorrow when he is only making it better for him and his class of people "people that steal from the hard working class" Carma always comes back to people like him..
Mitchell
11:48AM SEP 11TH 2012
How can u pass smthg like the FRS in the first place w/ out even consulting the people your taking it from. The FRS should be an option if anything, not a concession. State, municipal, county employees should have the option to choose were there hard earn 3% goes!
Hollie
7:14PM SEP 9TH 2012
So, can someone tell me what the outcome is? You people that keep talking about the private sector and that they have to pay into their retirements....come on, the private sector would not do the work that State and County employees do for the money they make.
Ron Pilenzo
11:46AM SEP 8TH 2012
How can government assure, even guarantee any benefits to its employees, while not assuring that benefits offered by private sector employers can claim the same? Regardless of the negotiations process, benefits granted, should never be subject to any guarantees. This is not only class warfare, but discrimination. Taxpayers who pay for these benefits do not give away their right to withhold taxes, or money to pay for benefits they do not enjoy themselves. Unions ask too much of government and should be subject to the same conditions of employment they themselves enjoy. By the way, how can a deduction as a contribution to one's own pension plan be a "pay cut?"
Kary Phelps
11:02AM SEP 18TH 2012
I will address the last part of your question. 3% of my pay was taken away without any input from me. Therefore:paycut. Also, this legislature has increase my workload by 50-70% in addition to my paycut. Would you not feel betrayed?
Roger Bennett
9:46PM SEP 16TH 2012
ERISA does cover the pension plans of the private sector...its a government funded plan that underwrites benefits, among other things. Telling public sector employees, who trade wages for benefits in good faith, and whose average retirement benefit is $18,000 a year, with NO health insurance included, that they are asking too much is ludicrous, and without merit. Governor Scott is what he is...a crook who got away with setting a world record for defrauding the taxpayer via false medicare claims, and now he's our Governor. So you think he's doing the right thing? Think again.
Jackson
10:51AM SEP 8TH 2012
Gov. Scott taking from the hard working men and women of the state that are already struggling trying to make ends meet shows just how much he cares about the average worker. Most people have had pay cuts on their jobs already. Then for him to come and take even more from workers that are already struggling is like adding insult to injury. So if Gov. Scott wins all the workers under the frs. lose.
Freeman
8:29PM SEP 7TH 2012
Scott and bondi are retarded their kids should be housed in a nursing home for few. Years,,,,,,,,,,,corrupt and enept

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