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Posted: April 6, 2010 12:30 AM

Teachers, parents and students came to Tallahassee to protest a bill that would implement performance pay for public school teachers. As House representatives debated their version of the legislation Monday, a few protestors took time to tell Sunshine State News why they oppose the measure.

 

“I’m against it because I don’t think it’s good for the students. I think it’s going to force teachers to teach to the test, and all my children will do is learn how to do is to take a standardized test.”
- Katrina Roddenberry, mother of three at Riversink Elementary School and Riversprings Middle School in Wakulla County


“The problem is most of the teachers in the state, their base pay is too low to keep the really talented people. So, we've got to take a look at that first before rewarding the teachers to excel.”
- Todd Bayers, former teacher at Wakulla County High School, Crawfordville


“I know a lot of kids who would just flunk a test if they didn’t like their teacher, and that’s really bad.”
- Jackie Burnham, 9th grade student, Florida State University Schools High


“I think an incentive for students to perform better is a plus, but I don’t think that the standards they have listed or being able to dictate to us what to do is appropriate. There’s no teacher input. There’s no reaching out, asking the teachers, ‘What can we do? How can we support you? What do you need?’ It’s more, ‘This is how you do it. This is how it’s going to be based.' End of line.”
- Amanda Babcock, 5th grade teacher, Oak Hammock K-8 School, Port St. Lucie


“We are opposed. We have a Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation grant that goes 7 years, $100 million. We are going to be implementing a lot of the reforms that both the Senate and House would like to see, but it is very much a collaborative effort between pretty much teachers, administration, the teachers union, all together. And it's led by teachers.”
- David Peacock, biology teacher at Spoto High School in Hillsborough County


Comments (4)

Rob Vazquez
8:15PM APR 6TH 2010
As both a former teacher (2 years of service) and long term substitute teacher (4 years of sevice) I feel qualified to render an honest opinion on the issue of performance pay; IT WILL NOT WORK !!!

Teachers have enough on their plate in having to teach under some very tight parameters, for lousy pay, under ultra-political administrators and to an incredibly diverse student population (both culturally and intellectually) that adding something such as performance pay would simply be the the straw that breaks the camel's back. Teachers just need to be allowed to teach without all the nonsense that administrators, politicians, and sometimes parents burden them with. The problem,folks, are not the teachers.

Rob Vazquez
Candidate - State House of Representatives, Independent, Dist. 96
Roseydave
4:11PM APR 6TH 2010
"What gets measured gets improved." (HTG) That goes for everything!! Want better teaching? Find a way to equitably test the students based on their individual maximum potential. Not one size fits all. Then pay the teacher commensurate with their ability to maximize the individual student’s potential. If the teacher is maximizing the individual child’s potential - compensate them very very well. If they continually are not maximizing the individual student’s potential it is tantamount to dereliction of duty and borderline child abuse...and they should feel it strongly in their compensation. The ineffective teacher could receive additional training and if not improved - termination. Force them into a line of work they are better suited for vs. tenuring into a position that creates long term damage to our future generations (individual, corporate, and national). They key is effectively and accurately setting standards based on individual early childhood cognitive and skill testing. (By the way if the test is set up correctly there is not a problem training to a test. Memorization is the lowest level...you can test higher levels of cognitive learning skills with an appropriate test.)
jen
9:37PM APR 6TH 2010
Roseydave,

Out of curiousity, are you a teacher? You do realize that no matter how hard a teacher tries, in the end it is up to the STUDENT to study and do well on his or her exams. There are standards set in Florida- the Sunshine State Standards- and all teachers must use these when creating lesson plans.

What people tend to forget is that, for the most part, teachers are required to go "by the book" in the classrom- literally. They have a teacher's manual and they have to follow the lesson plans given- this is especially true in elementary school.

Oh, and I disagree- "training to test" is the antithesis of "effecitve teaching." This is non-teaching. This is cheating to get your school a higher grade.
Roseydave
10:55PM APR 7TH 2010
You can obviously train to the test with anything that requires memorization of facts. If the subject requires comprehension, application, analysis, synthesis or evaluation you can structure the test to test for those skills...beyond memorization of facts. Depends on the skill and ability of the teacher. Of course it depends on the student too... both the teacher and the student need to have skin in the game. There are a LOT of great teachers...and they should be recognized and apreciated and paid. There are a LOT of poor teachers that hide their lack of ability, commitment and passion to teach behind excuses of the "teacher’s manual”, "requirements" and "the book"....and they should be recognized, and outed too. There is no way to make it work without tying compensation to effectiveness....rewarding mediocrity breads mediocrity. The challenge is in the measurement. I have taught for many years.