Politics

Gov. Rick Scott Confident Judge Jackie Fulford Will be Overruled on Pensions

By: Jim Turner | Posted: March 6, 2012 8:35 PM
Mike Haridopolos, Rick Scott, Jackie Fulford and Dean Cannon

Senate President Mike Haridopolos, R-Merritt Island, Gov. Rick Scott, Judge Jackie Fulford and House Speaker Dean Cannon, R-Winter Park | Credit: Rick Flagg - bbn.frn.com - Gage Skidmore - Flickr

Gov. Rick Scott is confident that higher courts will overturn Circuit Judge Jackie Fulford’s decision Tuesday to block the less-than-year-old law to require state employees to contribute 3 percent of their pay toward Florida's pension program.

“It’s clearly constitutional. I cannot imagine a judge making this decision,” Scott told reporters Tuesday night outside the Capitol.

“I don’t get to write the laws. The Legislature writes the laws. My job is to run the executive branch. The judiciary is not supposed to be writing the laws. This is writing the laws of the land. That is wrong and I’m very comfortable that this will be held constitutional.”

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Scott added that the state is already working on an appeal, its second in less than a year of a Fulford decision against part of his and the Legislature's reform efforts in 2011.

Senate President Mike Haridopolos, R-Merritt Island, and House Speaker Dean Cannon, R-Winter Park, were also ready for an appeal.

“I look forward to reviewing Judge Fulford’s order in detail in the coming days. While I respect the authority of the court to offer an opinion in this case, I disagree with Judge Fulford's position," Cannon said in a statement released Tuesday.

“Fiscally responsible adjustments to the Florida Retirement System protect the long-term solvency of the program, ensure that we can avoid massive layoffs and severe cuts to public-employee pay and modernize our program, bringing Florida more in line with the private sector and the majority of states that require a modest employee contribution to retirement benefits.

“The ruling of a trial court judge is the first and not the final step. Today’s ruling will have no immediate impact on the passage of the 2012-2013 General Appropriations Act, which the House will take up this Friday in fulfillment of our constitutional responsibility to pass a balanced budget."

Haridopolos on Tuesday went further.

“I am deeply disappointed in Judge Fulford’s decision today," he said in a statement. "She has proven once again that she is an activist judge who has no problem overstepping her authority and overruling the decisions of the state’s elected representatives and the critical role that we play as the budget writers for the state of Florida.
 
“This ruling is a radical departure from past precedent. Forty-six other states already ask state employees to contribute to their own pensions, and in fact, state employees in Florida, up until the 1970s, also contributed to their pensions. In my opinion, the evidence that this is a constitutional measure is irrefutable. That said, we are currently reviewing her full opinion, and I anticipate that we will take steps to immediately appeal her ruling.”

In her summary, Fulford stated that she was interpreting the law.

“The 2011 Legislature, when faced with a budget shortfall, turned to the employees of the state of Florida and ignored the contractual rights given to them by the Legislature in 1974,” Fulford wrote.

“Considering the entire record before it, this court finds that certain provisions of Senate Bill 2100 constitute an unconstitutional impairment of plaintiffs’ contract with the state of Florida, an unconstitutional taking of private property without full compensation, and an abridgement of the rights of public employees to collectively bargain over conditions of employment.

“To find otherwise would mean that a contract with our state government has no meaning,” she added.

The Florida Education Association, which filed the lawsuit with a number of public-employee unions, contends legislators violated the state Constitution, which requires contract changes to be negotiated through collective bargaining.

Andy Ford of the FEA expects the decision will end up in the state Supreme Court. State employees should expect the 3 percent cut to continue to be collected by the state -- held in escrow -- pending the final outcome of the case.

“This is a win because the governor and the Legislature overstepped their bounds by breaking the contract that the state of Florida had with the public employees,” Ford said.

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Ron Meyer, representing the teachers' union, called the decision “momentous.”

“The court said, 'a promise is a promise, a contract is a contract,'” Meyer said.

“This is not judicial activism. Judicial activism is when the court ignores the law.”

The ruling does not affect the 3 percent to the pension plan that is designated from employees hired after July 1, 2011, when the law went into place.
 
Florida Democratic Party Chairman Rod Smith applauded the decision as a ruling against Scott and the “tea party agenda.”

"This decision is yet another blow to Rick Scott's continued assault on the middle class and a victory for Florida's families. In the midst of our economic recovery, Scott's brazen, unconstitutional attempt to cut wages by 3 percent moves our state in the wrong direction and continues to put the burden of solving our state's budget crisis squarely on the backs of working families,” Smith stated in a release.

The state has argued that nobody lost benefits already earned or the right to collectively bargain when it required workers to contribute to the retirement system.

Legislators, seeking to patch a $3.8 billion shortfall in the budget, set contributions at 3 percent for the 700,000 state, county and municipal employees covered by the $121.6 billion Florida Retirement System.
 
Florida TaxWatch President and CEO Dominic Calabro said the pension reform would have made the system more sustainable.
 
“Florida TaxWatch continues to believe that this reform is in the best interest of all Floridians, and will continue to be a strong advocate for the much-needed reforms that our research has shown to be prudent,” Calabro stated in a release.

The case was heard in October by Fulford, who has previously ruled against the state’s prison privatization plan.

At the time, Fulford said she wasn’t going to overturn prior Florida Supreme Court rulings, which she said allowed legislators to modify contracts. But she disagreed with the precedent being offered by the state attorneys that the courts had allowed legislators to unilaterally change contracts.

Scott had recommended legislators make the employee contribution 5 percent.

Government employees covered by the system have been 100 percent covered by the state since July 1, 1974.

The union also contends that when legislators changed the rules during the 2011 session, their retirement benefits were cut.

During the October hearing, Charlette Moore, a certified public accountant testifying for the teachers' union, said the new retirement package readjusts cost-of-living raises in a manner that cuts long-term benefits.

Moore said the formula used by the state calculates time before and after employees were required to pay 3 percent pension payments starting July 1, 2011.

The change, she said, alters the cost-of-living increase from a fixed 3 percent to less than 3 percent. For some employees, that could mean thousands of dollars in the long term.

Paul Zeisler, an independent actuary hired by the state, disagreed, saying that when cost-of-living adjustments are calculated with accrued benefits, the long-term retirement payments remain equal.



Reach Jim Turner at jturner@sunshinestatenews.com or at (772) 215-9889.



Comments (25)

Doris Nardelli
12:22PM MAR 19TH 2012
Clarification - if law prohibits overturning this decision then so be it. However, logical financial realities should prevail going forward and whatever collective bargaining constructs exist should be modified for future solvency of the state retirement system. This has nothing to do with "balancing budgets on the backs of state employees" although that makes for good headline copy and inflames passionate debate. Work world realities have changed dramatically. Florida employees in either the public or private sector are always free to weigh the advatages or disadvantages if you will of working in state government or the private sector. This is afterall a right to work state. My professional experience includes working in state government, as a public and private secondary education teacher, working for service nonprofits, working for a major midwest manufacturer and as an owner of a service franchise business in two states. Just because something once was does not mean it continues static forever - witness the debacle of union demands in the automotive and steel industries crippling American competitiveness and largly causing the collapse of that industry. Business success is what fuels Florida's economy and enables Florida to offer citizens services, delivered through a state workforce or through subcontracting with nonprofit or for profit organizations. I fully support future contributions into retirement as that is the standard in the private sector. Salarys for similar skill sets are now comparable in the public and private sector and are no longer unequal. Given employer paid health care and other benefits such as paid time off state workers may actually have advatages over their counterparts in the private sector. It is not an illogical argument and makes financial sense.
Nancy
6:41PM MAR 13TH 2012
huge_brain
OOPS - I almost forgot- - we pay taxes in this state so we actually help to pay our own salaries ,can you say that?
Nancy
6:35PM MAR 13TH 2012
huge_brain you obviously don't have a brain. Some of us don't make a lot of money so that 3% is really hurting us, especially since we have not had a raise in many years and no cost of living adjustment, what makes you so bitter?.
huge_brain
1:46AM MAR 9TH 2012
For all of you parasites feeding at the government trough. This judge's ruling will be overturned. There is plenty of case law and prior supreme court decisions in favor of the state. Too bad and so sad you rely on an incompetent judge to give you a false sense of entitlement.
Frank
1:23PM MAR 8TH 2012
I don't think you'll really like being thrown in Florida's briar patch. See, we have the fewest number of state emplyees per capita of any state in the nation, lowest per capita school funding, and some of the lowest salaries in the country. Tell me how much your 401k gets when you make $30,000 a year (and don't give me this "engineer" bunk - I have a hard sciences Ph.D.). Perhaps you too can live on what state employees and teachers are making in Florida, and live without raises for the past six years, all while your work load increases. That's what so special about state employees - they protect your health, plan your cities, police your streets, provide your water and sewer, teach your children, and police your streets, all for lower wages than most of them would likely make in the private sector while providng few of those public benefits. Yes, they are special.
A Buchanan
4:23AM MAR 8TH 2012
Wow, I hope this is overturned. As a FL native living in California and hoping to move back to FL (Cali is going down due to unsustainable public employee benefits), I hate to see my home state go down the same path. If the judge's logic is sound, then honor the contracts and bear the consequences. During receivership/bankruptcy negotiations the city/county contracts can be modified to align with sane and rational financials. Of course, this could take years to transpire. By that time the damage will be done in the cuts to public services and employees, in order to pay retirement benefits to government employees. Vallejo CA and Stockton CA are destroyed due to public employee union benefits costs, and they at least contributed something to their benefits. 3% contribution is out of the question? Well throw me in that briar patch. I'm a systems engineer in San Diego (FL native) and have a 401K, why is that not good enough for government employees? What is so special about government employees?
Tyler
8:27AM MAR 8TH 2012
You dont live in FLA and have no idea what is going on !!!!

First no raise in 6 years and then you cut pay by 3%. What is fair about that?? The reason we dont contribute is that it was part of benefit package offered when interviewing for the job.
Bob Jones
3:25PM MAR 7TH 2012
Are you kidding, Rick? What did you smoke for breakfast this morning? "Clearly Constitutional"? Really? Just read the Summary Judgment rendered by Judge Fulford. All of her rulings, without a single exception, are founded upon unambiguous rulings of law and upheld by prior courts. You and your one-term cronies in the legislature want to stomp on the Florida Constitution. Give it up. Your a mess! Hats off to Judge Fulford for standing up for what's wrong and sending you packing with your tail between your miserable legs. When do I get my refund?
Sigh of Relief
3:15PM MAR 7TH 2012
@Thank You Judge Fulford!
One of the main problems with the comparison to other States is that the wages paid in the other States were excluded. Florida ranks around 49th in state worker pay, a rather convenient fact to exclude from the discussion.
It will never happen, but if our wages were determined by a comparison to other states or the private sector, I would get a big raise.
Sigh of Relief
3:07PM MAR 7TH 2012
Wouldn't be cheaper to keep a law firm on retainer to tell the Legislature the law they just tried to pass (again) was unconstitutional? While I think the concept of a State Constitution is something anyone elected should be familiar with, we keep having things like this attempted.
I'm glad I'm getting my property back (or reimbursed for its illegal theft), I would also like all my money back that was spent for political purposes of a group that considers itself above the law of the land.
I did not sent anyone to Tallahassee to spend my money to help his own political career or that of his party.
Thank You Judge Fulford!
1:45PM MAR 7TH 2012
The fact that other state's have approved the employee contribution is irrelevant! Apparently the government wasn't challenged by the people in the other states. Or maybe there was never a contract between the employees and the other States like in Florida. If every state should be the same, then why do we need governors for each state? I think it's completely WRONG for us to enter into a contract with the State and then they want to do away with it. Give, then take back...not a good way to conduct business.
Jim
1:23PM MAR 7TH 2012
As a state emp and living in tallahassee, I want to say THANK YOU to EVERYONE living outside of Tallahasse that supports us State Workers.

The Gov beleives we are less than second class and has been heard talking about trying to get rid of (fire or layoff) ALL STATE Employess and hire Contractors from India.
This guy and his staff NEED TO GO!

Thanks again eveyone!
Thank You Judge Fulford!
1:36PM MAR 7TH 2012
You are right. He showed his lack of concern for State workers when he first took office. What the rest of the state (private sector workforce) doesn't realize is that without State employees handling the regulations we do, everyone would be up the creek and at the mercy of the big companies! I worked private sector and now public sector and the only reason my boss in the private sector didn't like the State getting involved is when the company was trying to get away with doing something wrong...I know that from experience. So, I wonder why the Governor doesn't like the State workforce? Oh, that's right. He was a boss in the private sector. Could he be holding a grudge??
Andrew Nappi
12:50PM MAR 7TH 2012
This is now unraveling for what it is- the successful use of the state workforce as whipping boy red meat to throw to the frenzied,mean spirited among Scott's GOP base and grassroots. It's failure now allows Rick Scott and the Legislature to practice what they do best-CRONYISM-as evidenced in the TBT story. (links not allowed here)

"But after spending $500,000 to hire the Atlanta-based law firm of Alston and Bird last year, the Department of Management Services in December entered into a second contract to spend up to $300,000 on defense of the case.
The firm, which has ties to Gov. Rick Scott, exhausted the $500,000 retainer the state paid for the initial defense, said Kris Purcell, spokesman for the Department of Management Services.
The contract says that the state "agrees to provide legal advice and representation to the agency for the duration of one appeal, and the fees to the agency will not exceed $300,000 even if the contractor spends time on the appeal that would result in charges over $300,000."Tampa Bay Times 03/06/12
Frank
11:44AM MAR 7TH 2012
Oh, yeah - what is this, number six or seven of his actions that have been found to be unconstitutional. He must be referring to the rich man's constitution - I can do whatever I want and get away with it because I'm rich and powerful. Perhaps we do need a constitutional amendment (and not to punishingly gut the judiciary), but to consider a final court finding of your elected office action as unconstitutional as resulting in immediate removal from office for a period not less than 10 years for having violated your elected oath to uphold the state and U.S. Constitution. That should stop some of this political nonsense (or at least remove the violator). The recent trend of Florida government to provide for the arrogant, very priviledged is getting very old (if not downright criminal in some instances providing personal benefits to a specific member).
Voice of Reason
11:23AM MAR 7TH 2012
It's getting to be downright frightening when people accuse Judges who uphold the Constitution as 'Activists'. More and more, it seems that some want a State and Country that borders on anarchy.
Julie Delegal
9:14AM MAR 7TH 2012
The Governor is not an attorney, and neither am I. But I'm pretty sure that constitutionally protected rights don't get to be voted upon. This case is about the legislature's attempt to circumvent the LOCAL collective bargaining process with a unilateral move. It's about freedom to contract--you know, that bulwark of conservative principles-- and the legislature will lose.
Micky
7:57AM MAR 7TH 2012
Doris Nardelli >>>> You must be darn rich to talk garbage like you do or you must be employed by Rick Scott....................
guest
12:38AM MAR 7TH 2012
Dream on you loser. Fulford is a Republican, one of the few left who does not feel herself above the law.

She's affirmed the faith some people have in the constitution, contractual obligations and in the judiciary.

Doris, you are a real loser.
Doris Nardelli
11:28PM MAR 6TH 2012
Classic case of Liberal Judge trying to legislate from the bench. Common sense should prevail and hopefully her opinion will be overturned on appeal.
john browning
8:59AM APR 4TH 2012
doris nardelli you are a ass wipe
Bob Jones
3:35PM MAR 7TH 2012
Did you read the Summary Judgment? Hoping this is overturned upon appeal is like people in hell hoping for icewater. Good luck. And score one for the little guys. I'm guessing you're a Republican. That's OK. With governance like this, we'll fast be returning to Democratically controlled executive and legislative branches of State government. What we have now is the "best darn goverment that money can buy". You nauseate me.
Julie Delegal
9:20AM MAR 7TH 2012
Doris,

You may be conflating judicial restraint with political restraint. The judge knows that constitutionally protected rights don't get voted on. The right to contract is between employees and the locally employers who sit at the collective bargaining table with them. The legislature is not in it. Just as we can't vote on whether black people should sit on the back of the bus, individuals' freedom to contract is not to be infringed on by the government. Constitutional provisions protect the individual, and outline the powers of the legislature vis a vis those individual liberties.
guest
12:41AM MAR 7TH 2012
Common sense? Yeah, that's why we have contracts. Without them we'd be depended on morons like you. And as I told you above, Fulford is a Republican.

Groan. Lazy idiots like are the reason we got stuck with crooks like Scott.
Bob Jones
3:38PM MAR 7TH 2012
Thank you, "guest". My sentiments exactly! Lazy idiot is the appropriate characterization. If the moron did vote, it was an ignorant, uninformed vote based on the candidates who ran the most bought and paid for TV ads. Ain't America great!!!

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