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Next Election, Look for Some Changes, Say Supervisors

November 21, 2018 - 6:00am
Finalizing election results Tuesday
Finalizing election results Tuesday

After months of mudslinging, weeks of court wrangling and days of ballot counting that again landed Florida in an unwelcome national spotlight, a state panel matter-of-factly finalized the 2018 election results in a five-minute meeting Tuesday.

The certification came on time, but problems with other election-related deadlines in two large, heavily Democratic counties --- Palm Beach and Broward --- are prompting county supervisors and legislative leaders to ponder possible solutions to the state’s ballot-box woes.

Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections Susan Bucher blamed mechanical failures for missing deadlines for recounts ordered in statewide races. Broward County Supervisor Brenda Snipes, meanwhile, experienced myriad problems, including failing --- by two minutes --- to meet a Thursday deadline for a machine recount in Republican Gov. Rick Scott’s race against Democratic U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson.

Scott --- who eventually emerged the victor in the Senate race --- and other Republicans castigated Snipes and Bucher for their handling of the recount, accusing the elections chiefs of incompetence and outright fraud. Snipes on Sunday submitted her resignation to Scott.

But other county supervisors say this year’s three statewide recounts --- the first since Florida law was changed after the 2000 presidential recount --- show that the system generally worked well.

“Clearly, being the first test of the system for a statewide recount, there are some things that need to be tweaked,” Okaloosa County Supervisor of Elections Paul Lux, the president of the Florida State Association of Supervisors of Elections, told The News Service of Florida in a telephone interview. “There’s room for improvement, especially as it relates to the deadlines.”

Floridians cast more than 8.2 million ballots through the mail, at early voting sites or on Election Day, according to the state Division of Elections website. In addition to a recount in the U.S. Senate race, recounts were required because of slim margins in the races for governor and agriculture commissioner.

The state Elections Canvassing Commission on Tuesday quickly certified the results of the elections, two days after results of manual recounts were submitted in the U.S. Senate and agriculture-commissioner races. The governor’s race required a machine recount but did not go to a manual, or hand, recount.

In 2000, Florida law did not require statewide recounts, meaning only some counties conducted recounts and, because they had different types of voting machines, the counties used different recount methods. The law was changed in 2001, but the crafters never envisioned the state would undergo three recounts at once, Lux said.

Deadlines for the manual and machine recounts included in state law are built around a mandate that legislators be seated two weeks after the general election --- which was Tuesday this year. Also, the deadlines are built around an early December deadline for the Electoral College to vote on the results of presidential elections.

State lawmakers might consider pushing back deadlines to give larger counties more time to tabulate absentee ballots and conduct recounts, Lux and several other elections supervisors suggested during interviews with the News Service this week.

“The discussion has to be, did we see actual problems, or did we see problems that were perceived as problems based on a particular candidate or a particular campaign seeing something that was not going their way, or that was perceived as not going their way,” Lux said. “There’s a huge difference.”

The state also may want to revisit deadlines for mail-in ballots, Lux said. Under current law, mail-in ballots must be received by 7 p.m. on Election Day. But overseas ballots postmarked by Election Day can be counted up to 10 days following the election. The mail-in ballot deadline was the subject of one of several lawsuits filed by Democrats in the days following the Nov. 6 election. Other states allow up to 10 days after the election for mail-in ballots to be counted.

Florida could consider allowing mail-in ballots to be counted if they are postmarked before Election Day and received by elections offices within two days after the election, Orange County Supervisor of Elections Bill Cowles said. That’s the same amount of time allowed for voters who cast provisional ballots to provide documentation to elections offices, Cowles said.

“Our U.S. postal service is not what it used to be,” Cowles said. “I can’t tell you the number of ballots that people put in the mail on Tuesday, thinking they’re still going to count.”

And lawmakers may want to authorize the use of vote centers, Lux proposed. The “mega-precincts” could help eliminate the need for provisional ballots, which are given to voters whose identities or other information cannot be confirmed on Election Day. Critics say minority voters, as well as young or old voters, are more likely to have their provisional ballots tossed.

“Imagine a world where everyone is using some version of a vote center instead of precinct-based voting on Election Day, and you could go to any one of them. You would never find yourself in the wrong precinct. Bam. You’ve just eliminated all of the provisional ballots that are voted by people for being in the wrong precinct,” Lux said.

Elections chiefs also cautioned against basing changes to state laws on hiccups in this year’s election.

“I’m concerned that the Legislature is going to jump on this and overreact. I think that, for the most part, the process worked the way it was supposed to. We’re not supposed to have instant results. When you have a close race, we need to methodically review every ballot,” Polk County Supervisor of Elections Lori Edwards, a former state representative, said.

Many of the county supervisors lamented that the state’s 67 elections chiefs are being viewed with the same contempt as the isolated areas that experienced high-profile problems.

“Clearly there were issues in the counties that were reported, but I think we need to remember, in totality, we got it right,” said Pasco County Supervisor of Elections Brian Corley, adding that the supervisors and their staff “work tirelessly” in the months leading up to the August primary.

The hectic pace continues until after recounts are completed following the general election.

“It’s not fair to the clear majority of supervisor of election offices that went above and beyond,” Corley said. “To be dragged down with a perception of the whole state having issues, it’s not accurate. It’s not fair.”

Edwards also said she wished politicians and the public would tone down the rhetoric in the days following an election.

“I think the folks that were claiming fraud knew darn well, and had plenty of lawyers to explain to them the process, that an election takes a couple of days,” Edwards said. “I think they knew it. And I think it was a political strategy to try to condemn the process for their own political gains.”

Given the razor-thin margins that have become the norm in Florida elections, the state should be prepared to be the focus of scrutiny, even in years like 2018 that don’t involve presidential contests.

“When you’re the largest battleground state in the nation and all the eyes are going to be on Florida forever, there’s no such thing as a low-key midterm,” Corley said.

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Broward and Palm Beach were not the only counties with problems following the Florida Elections Laws and Procedures Hillsborough County did also. I have requested the following information from them and still awaiting their response: IMPORTANT - DATA REQUEST: 2018 General Election Over Votes and Under Votes Inbox x Jeanne Webb <secretary@hillsborough.gop> Sun, Nov 18, 9:47 AM (3 days ago) to clatimer, Peg, gkramer, Good morning, On Friday Nov. 16, 2018 I verbally asked you if you could provide me with the starting Over Votes and Under Votes numbers for Manual Recount of the State Senator District 18 Race, the US Senator Race and the Commissioner of Agriculture Race. I am following up on that request to obtain that information. On Friday Nov. 16, 2018, immediately after the State Senator District 18 Manual Recount, I asked Peg Reese the same question. Peg initially told me that the numbers were the same as were reported on the Nov. 6th, 2018 EL45A Report submitted to the Fl. Division of Elections. Peg reminded me that because of several power outages on Wednesday Nov. 14, 2018 there was a loss of 800 votes during the Machine Recount process. The Canvassing Board determined that the Machine Recount numbers could not be used, so the Nov. 6th Election Day numbers reported to the DOE would be used. Peg verified that the Nov. 6th Unofficial reported Over Votes and Under Vote ballots had gone through the Machine Recount process. I asked Peg how could the Over Vote ballots and the Under Vote ballot numbers be the same, or even 100 positive they were the same ballots determined to be an Over Vote or an Under Vote after going through the Machine Recount process. Peg stated she would get me the numbers, which she did not. I understand that prior to each Manual Recount, all the ballots must go through a voting machine to be separated for each race being Manually Recounted. After the separation of each race, there must have been a total number obtained for each race that was Manually Recounted for each Race. Please provide the actual beginning Manual Recount number for each race. State Senator District 18; US Senator and Commissioner of Agriculture. Please note I am concerned Voters may have been disenfranchised and their ballots were not counted or some voters ballots may have been counted twice Fact: The Over Vote and Under Vote ballots from the Nov. 6th unofficial numbers reported to the DOE and the Over Votes and Under Vote ballots after the Machine Recount that were counted during the Manual Recount, cannot 100 positively be sure that they were the same exact ballots. Note: I submit, the only way to positively get an accurate 2018 General Election Result for Hillsborough County is to count every ballot again. Not take part of the numbers from Nov. 6th report and part from a Machine Recount process. IMPORTANT - DATA REQUEST: 2018 General Election Over Votes and Under Votes Inbox x Jeanne Webb <secretary@hillsborough.gop> Sun, Nov 18, 9:47 AM (3 days ago) to clatimer, Peg, gkramer, Jim, edo, ANDY.MAYTS, JCPlanas, Guyann, me, bcc: senatorstorms, bcc: Chris, bcc: Gregg Good morning, On Friday Nov. 16, 2018 I verbally asked you if you could provide me with the starting Over Votes and Under Votes numbers for Manual Recount of the State Senator District 18 Race, the US Senator Race and the Commissioner of Agriculture Race. I am following up on that request to obtain that information. On Friday Nov. 16, 2018, immediately after the State Senator District 18 Manual Recount, I asked Peg Reese the same question. Peg initially told me that the numbers were the same as were reported on the Nov. 6th, 2018 EL45A Report submitted to the Fl. Division of Elections. Peg reminded me that because of several power outages on Wednesday Nov. 14, 2018 there was a loss of 800 votes during the Machine Recount process. The Canvassing Board determined that the Machine Recount numbers could not be used, so the Nov. 6th Election Day numbers reported to the DOE would be used. Peg verified that the Nov. 6th Unofficial reported Over Votes and Under Vote ballots had gone through the Machine Recount process. I asked Peg how could the Over Vote ballots and the Under Vote ballot numbers be the same, or even 100 positive they were the same ballots determined to be an Over Vote or an Under Vote after going through the Machine Recount process. Peg stated she would get me the numbers, which she did not. I understand that prior to each Manual Recount, all the ballots must go through a voting machine to be separated for each race being Manually Recounted. After the separation of each race, there must have been a total number obtained for each race that was Manually Recounted for each Race. Please provide the actual beginning Manual Recount number for each race. State Senator District 18; US Senator and Commissioner of Agriculture. Please note I am concerned Voters may have been disenfranchised and their ballots were not counted or some voters ballots may have been counted twice Fact: The Over Vote and Under Vote ballots from the Nov. 6th unofficial numbers reported to the DOE and the Over Votes and Under Vote ballots after the Machine Recount that were counted during the Manual Recount, cannot 100 positively be sure that they were the same exact ballots. Note: I submit, the only way to positively get an accurate 2018 General Election Result for Hillsborough County is to count every ballot again. Not take part of the numbers from Nov. 6th report and part from a Machine Recount process.

And isn’t this the same SOE who accepted petitions at his residence after the deadline? We need a change in Hillsborough (Taxborough) as well

Don't expect the Republican Florida legislature or the Republican Secretary of State to bring about any truly democratic reform to the Florida election process. More gerrymandering and continued Democratic and minority voting suppression are part and parcel of Republican DNA.

Not a fair comment. So far its democrats who refuse to conceeed . These two counties had incompetent directors of election. How come the rest of Florida is on time but these two are not, lose ballots, find ballots in The most outrageous places. Please dont blame republicans for inneficiency , is not something that is in anyones DNA.

The mantra of the far left. Hurling baseless charges, and trying to rig elections.

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