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Poll: Obama, Dems Poised to Lose Grayson House Seat
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In one of the most closely watched U.S. House races in the nation, Republican Daniel Webster now holds a 7-point lead over Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson in Central Florida's 8th Congressional District, according to a new Sunshine State News Poll.
Webster, a former state senator, leads the freshman congressman 43-36 in the survey of 559 likely voters conducted Sept. 25-27. TEA ("Taxed Enough Already") Party candidate Peg Dunmire drew 6 percent and NPA hopeful George Metcalfe garnered 3 percent, while 9 percent remained undecided (2 percent cited "other" and 1 percent refused to state). Digging deeper, the numbers look even worse for Grayson as 51 percent of respondents said they had an unfavorable view of the Orlando-area congressman.
"Grayson has real problems here," said Jim Lee, president of Voter Survey Service, which conducted the poll for Sunshine State News. "He’s even more unpopular than the president, which is not surprising given how controversial he has been with his rhetoric, overall style and TV ads." Lee added, "It’s fascinating that both Grayson and the president have virtually the same image (a positive/negative ratio of 34/51), but Grayson is actually disliked more by independents (36/47 favorable/unfavorable) while Obama is only 36/37." Andy Sere, spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee in Washington, D.C., said the Central Florida district "is ripe for a Republican pick-up, even if we weren't running against Alan Grayson." Calling Grayson's views "so far outside the maintstream," Sere predicted that "a large swath of independents and conservative Democrats will hand him a resounding defeat in November." Tom Gaitens, Florida director for FreedomWorks, said the Washington, D.C-based tea group has focused on the CD8 race "from the beginning."
"Grayson is an obnoxious antagonist to tea partiers and raised the ire of the movement," Gaitens said. "He's probably the biggest lightning rod-type candidate in the nation."
With controversial TV ads like "Taliban Dan," in which the Democrat tried to portray the Baptist Webster as a religious extremist, "Grayson put himself in the crosshairs," Gaitens said.
"It's his character to say foolish things, and he doesn't handle stress well. He'll see this poll and get more desperate," said Gaitens, who predicts a 10-point victory for Webster.
But Webster has challenges, as well. Though the SSN poll shows him getting 72 percent of the GOP vote, Dunmire picks off 10 percent of Republicans and Metcalfe gets 1 percent.
"They have the potential to be real spoilers in this race and could allow Grayson to squeak through," Lee said.
The key appears to be what happens with the remaining 10 percent of Republicans who are undecided (47 percent of all undecided voters remaining).
Metcalfe appears to be a factor with independents, attracting 10 percent of that vote (vs. Webster at 33 percent, Grayson at 42 percent and Dunmire at 2 percent).
Among poll respondents who said their chances of voting this fall were "excellent," Webster retains a 7-point advantage over Grayson, 44-37.
Lee said it will be key whether the "third-party" vote evaporates closer to Election Day.
"A good reference point is last year's New Jersey governor’s race when Chris Christie defeated incumbent Democrat Jon Corzine," Lee observed.
"There was an independent candidate getting double-digit support in all the polling (including ours), but by the time Election Day rolled around voters realized it was a wasted vote and he only got 7 percent, which meant Christie was able to defeat Corzine with less than 50 percent of the vote. If I were Webster, I would be trying to convince conservative Republicans that a vote for Dunmire/Metcalfe is a vote for the incumbent."
Webster’s image with Republicans is healthy (58/4 favorable to unfavorable) but 30 percent still don’t have an opinion of him and 7 percent still don’t know him.
Female voters are anything but ambivalent about Grayson -- "They really loathe him," Lee reported. With Grayson's 33/53 favorable/unfavorable rating among women, Webster’s lead among females is much stronger (45/33 over Grayson) compared to a statistical tie (41/40 Webster) among males.
"This is important, because we usually see a gender gap in polling where females tend to vote more Democrat than males, but it’s the reverse in this poll," Lee said.
Grayson's campaign manager Susannah Randolph agrees that the female vote is crucial -- noting that 53 percent of CD 8's registered voters are women -- but she predicted that Webster's support will erode.
"Webster's record on women is starting to get out there. As soon as they realize he sponsored a bill to outlaw divorce, opposes abortion in cases of rape and incest, and voted for cuts in funding to domestic violence shelters, they'll see he's incredibly anti-women," Randolph said.
"Alan Grayson is a champion for women's rights, and we will be in a commanding lead," she predicted.
The Democratic Party also is banking that the district's relatively high percentage of minority voters (34.4 percent) will come out again for Grayson on Nov. 2. Grayson knocked off GOP incumbent Ric Keller with 52 percent of the vote in 2008.
Webster spokesman Brian Graham said Grayson's attack-dog style of campaigning will catch up with him this time around.
"Alan Grayson has been caught misleading voters in four different ads this month -- and it's backfiring," Graham said.
"The people of Central Florida deserve better than Alan Grayson's lies and extreme liberal positions. Daniel Webster is the leader Central Florida needs to create jobs and balance our budgets."
Metcalfe says the Republican-Democrat bickering is self-defeating.
"Voters are disgusted with both parties and will support my election in growing numbers. I could not hold my nose and vote GOP just to be betrayed again," Metcalfe said.
And Dunmire believes that the poll vastly understated TEA's power at the polling booth.
"All the polls to date that involved 'tea party' candidates have shown similar results in the weeks and months leading up to the election. Every one of those polls has undervalued tea-supported candidates and this race will be no different," Dunmire said.
Jerry Dorchuck, a Florida-based political consultant, forecast that Webster will "eke out a small victory, thanks to independent voters.
"The tea party activists will, I think, sit back and look at supporting one of their own vs. the prospect of giving the race back to Grayson, and they'll close their eyes and vote for Webster," said Dorchuck, who operates PMI Polling, a non-partisan research and voter-contact firm.
While the Cook and Rothenberg political reports have rated CD8 a "toss-up" and "toss-up/tilt Republican," Grayson still has an edge in personal wealth and campaign cash.
Sere said NRCC has committed $817,000 for advertising and "will do whatever we can to elect Dan Webster."
"The way Grayson is spending money has negated his advantage," Sere added. "His over-the-top and, in some cases, despicable ads have been deemed false. Even left-wing bloggers are coming out against him.
"Dan Webster is the perfect contrast -- a respected statesman."
As for the tea party effect, FreedomWorks, which has pledged to support Webster with yard signs and a get-out-the-vote drive, cautioned that no Republican should take tea movement for granted.
"You will stay in the office by honoring the Constitution, fiscal discipline and free markets. If you stray, we'll come after you too, just like we did with Charlie Crist," Gaitens warned.
The Sunshine State News poll was conducted by Voter Survey Service, a division of Pennsylvania-based Susquehanna Polling and Research. Live calls were made from the VSS telephone call center in Harrisburg, Pa., and the survey has a margin of error of +/- 4.14 percent.
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Contact Kenric Ward at kward@sunshinestatenews.com or at (772) 801-5341.


Comments (96)
But, lets not focus too much on that. Dan Webster is a really good guy. I've met him. Some things you aught to know. Dan Webster really likes helping people - that's really what he's all about. He cares about the people of his district and of Florida. He listens.....to everyone, whether they support him or not. He respects everyone.....whether they support his views or not.
Dan Webster believes in God and is guided by his Christian principles. Grayson would have you believe this is a bad thing. It's not. He doesn't shove his religon on anyone. It is Dan's faith in God that helps keep him humble and mindful that he must serve and represent everyone in his district to the best of his ability. What a difference between Dan Webster, who respects all of his constituants, and a guy who hates all people of a particular political affiliation.
Dan Webster believes in our nation as one bound together by what is stated in our Constitution. It's not just some "old outdated rag" as Grayson would have you believe. Our constitution is a compact between government and its citizens that deserves the utmost respect.
Please, take your time to learn about Dan Webster as I have. I'm really impressed with this man, not just for his political views, but because of his humility, respect for his fellow citizens and his ability to lead and go head-to-head with a thug like Grayson.
But, lets not focus too much on that. Dan Webster is a really good guy. I've met him. Some things you aught to know. Dan Webster really likes helping people - that's really what he's all about. He cares about the people of his district and of Florida. He listens.....to everyone, whether they support him or not. He respects everyone.....whether they support his views or not.
Dan Webster believes in God and is guided by his Christian principles. Grayson would have you believe this is a bad thing. It's not. He doesn't shove his religon on anyone. It is Dan's faith in God that helps keep him humble and mindful that he must serve and represent everyone in his district to the best of his ability. What a difference between Dan Webster, who respects all of his constituants, and a guy who hates all people of a particular political affiliation.
Dan Webster believes in our nation as one bound together by what is stated in our Constitution. It's not just some "old outdated rag" as Grayson would have you believe. Our constitution is a compact between government and its citizens that deserves the utmost respect.
Please, take your time to learn about Dan Webster as I have. I'm really impressed with this man, not just for his political views, but because of his humility, respect for his fellow citizens and his ability to lead and go head-to-head with a thug like Grayson.
Or is he just a clown and someone with no respect for voters? Either way, there's something seriously flawed about this guy.
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Watching these 4 videos, sums up his character fully, and should bring desgrace to the GOP and their tactics. He is the only congressman with heart and character.
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The Republicans and their operatives are estimated to have spent over half a million dollars in legal fees conducting lawfare by the filing of ten different lawsuits trying to force the Florida Tea Party out of this election - and in each case, the Republicans have lost publicly and badly. The most silly lawsuit to date was that the Florida TEA Party was trying to "take away Republican Voters" - like the Republicans OWN these voters. It is too bad they didn't bother to fight the Democrats this hard before Grayson got elected. The Florida courts have ruled that the Florida TEA Party is a bona fide political party and must be treated as such.
The "tea partiers" that viewed the tea party movement as a internal Republican reform movement (and it looks like one of them has already posted on this thread) lost badly when Webster was brought in at the last moment by the establishment. Patricia Sullivan (the leader of that faction) was beaten soundly - and now the "tea partiers" have a choice. They can dump their integrity and support Webster or support Peg Dunmire - who realized quickly that the Florida Republican Party would revert to one of the "Old Guard" party stalwarts to go up against Grayson. The losing "tea party" advocates and the Florida Republicans have been pushing the story that Grayson is supporting the Florida TEA Party because they are trying to discredit the TEA Party and leave Tea Party patriots no where else to go but with the Republicans. This is the group of Republicans that had Charlie Christ as their leader – and supported him until he bolted - and would not support Rick Scott after he won the nomination for governor.
The Florida TEA Party actually stands for something other than the pursuit of power - it stands for a return to the Constitution. The Democrats and Republicans have shown their colors - Grayson being a socialist misogynist, and Webster being the loyal Party Chieftain who is unwilling to be tested in debate against Peg Dunmire. Is this what Central Florida wants their choice to be between? Peg Dunmire has been in the health care industry for thirty years, has run her own business, and knows what needs to get done to get the country back on its feet. More government or more crony political dealings is not the way to do it!
If you have not noticed we are tax from cradle to grave for just about every service and product.
JFK, Reagon, GW Bush reduced taxes and gov size and as a result revenues to the US Treasury were at record levels. There was record employment growth and as anther result that you have overlooked is , the poor was making a come back and were turning into the middle class. The folks that were not working was either they had some terrible disbility, disfuntional or they did not wish to work.
The United States Enjoyed the highest GNP Growth during these times. Our national debt , which was high for me, was in line with what we had coming in. When revenues were down Obama and the Congress continued to add services. This what we use to call "FUZZY MATH"
As Americans we give more to take care of the poor than anyone elese in the world. There is so many out reach programs from Folks , like Joyce Meyers, Joal Oldstein, Cathoic outreach , big business, programs in every form. It nice that our Federal Gov. helps those in need, but the majority comes from private sector. THIS MEANS AFTER WE HAVE BEEN TAXED AGAIN AND AGAIN, WE AMERICANS, find in our hearts to do the right thing, and help our fellow citzens who are down on their luck!
Gov. hand in long term help to the is really not help. There are many folks that do not want to grow, becuase that have ,food stamps,Hud Housing and medicare. There is reaaly no motivation to go forward and the problem turns to generation to generation.
So How much Gov help is too much???
These conservative leades turned the problem around in about 18 months. Obama and GRayson (since 07)has been in power for 18 months and of of thier social programs have failed or has not proven to be long term solutions.
You must have short term memory,as a industrial supplier in Orlando, during the Bush years I had to beg people to drive for me. You could of quite one job and find one 2 days latter.
Thats the differace!
With all that help, and growing, how is it the wage gap and the percentage poor keeps rising?
There have been periods when the percentages weren't increasing, but it wasn't during a period of increasing govt and regulation.
I give to support the poor and I pay taxes (presumably for the good of all) and I see my local charity is infinitely better at helping people than the govt. I probably would never convince anyone like yourself, so I'll save the time, but I wish you would consider just why our founders believed in a limited govt. All you have to do is witness an encounter between your govt and a private citizen and you'll see how you can be squashed by the feds. There are no laws to protect you. The best chance you have is a constitution which LIMITS what govt can do to you. In the famous words, give me liberty or give me death, the speaker knew of what he spoke.
When has big government ever resulted in prosperity? The "poor" in the United States have a better standard of livng that the middle class in most of Europe. When has making "the playing field equal" resulted in excellence? Show me this utopia the size of the united states please. What made America different, and the Constitution unique and eternal is the principle which eludes you: that private property is the guardian of all other rights. To the extent we surrender our property and wealth to the government, we erode our freedom. Canada completed a study (The Cost of Wait Times) that concluded the only way their health care system will remain viable will be to push "non workers" to the back of the health care line. Nothing is free, you moronic socialist. People create wealth, not governments. The governments job is to protect the means for producing wealth, not steal it from people who work hard. The first entrepreneurs of this country, businessmen like Franklin, were the ones who created police and fire brigades, not the government. Charity should never be the business of government. All that does is give power to politicians instead of the poeple. If you believe that politicians and big government beaurocrats will keep your best interests in mind and not abuse their power, you are an idiot who should just move to North Korea. Our Congress have voted themselves rich pensions and exemptions from many laws...have they given you yours yet?
As I put it to a socialist friend of mine, "the avg family income in the US is around $40k. So, in your wildest dreams you want all families in America to have exactly $40k - no one gets more and no one gets less."
Now, that guy that's been working 60 hours a week to earn more, you are going to limit him and give it to the guy who decides he's just too sophisticated to do physical work. It wouldn't take very long until the guy working 60 hrs a week decides he'll do a little less, and what happens? Pretty soon the avg family income drops to $30k per year and on and on.
In my job I used to work a little with communist and former communist countries. You cannot believe how their view of work is so much different than ours. They literally have no work ethic.
I'm all for supporting the working man in this country. I'm all for making sure the powerful don't abuse their power and deny anyone the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. But, what you are supporting is a nightmare and it will not help the poor or the workers at all.
Not to be too condescending, but you really haven't thought through your belief in government. Absolute power corrupts. It always will. Just as you say the powerful (monopoly) will abuse the customers, that is basically true. You need free enterprise to counter those who would abuse customers and give them choices. That competition leads to better products and more responsive businesses.
To me you appear to either be too young to have enough experience or you've shaped a rigid opinion and ideology such that you can no longer reason with yourself on these issues.
I am right with you on the govt serving a role to protect us from abuses of power, but believe me, we do NOT want to give the govt the power over all things because then we have no alternatives to our abuse.
I am not young and a grown up woman....a business woman and manager....I believe in free but carefully regulated enterprise system...I have enough experience with the abuses of owners and shareholders....I do not know how experience you are Phil...but I rather have Grayson and the Democrats anytime,...I trust government more than capitalists. but of course government with checks and balances as well
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