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Public Insurance Adjusters Are the People's 'Good Guys'

We represent insured policyholders when disaster befalls
By: David Beasley | Posted: March 24, 2011 3:08 PM

David BeasleyDavid Beasley

In heated legislative battles, it’s common for one industry to be painted as the “villain.” I find it curious that in current debates regarding insurance issues, the villain role is somehow being projected upon those who advocate for you, the people of Florida.

Public insurance adjusters have played an important role in the Florida insurance industry for more than 60 years. We are licensed and appointed by the state exclusively to represent insured policyholders, helping them navigate the complex insurance claims process in order to receive full and fair compensation from their insurer.

When a homeowner’s roof is damaged, we help them secure the claim settlement they need to make repairs. When a water pipe bursts, we help them review their policies to ensure no coverages are missed and that full payment is provided. When a home is destroyed by fire, we help them document the loss according to their policy, to ensure they are fairly compensated.

Apparently, this makes us the bad guys.

We’re being blamed for driving up sinkhole insurance costs, though data provided to the state by insurance companies don’t support this allegation. The vast majority of public adjusters don’t handle sinkhole claims, and about 75 percent of claims are settled without representation by a public adjuster or attorney.

We’re being accused of filing fraudulent sinkhole claims, though the number of claims forwarded by insurers for investigation has fallen to 0.12 percent while the number of claims denied by insurers has more than doubled to 85 percent. Recent news reports have shown that most claims come from areas with previously identified sinkhole activity, that insurers have fought to delay a state database meant to track such activity, and that a state review of sinkhole claims does not factor in the impact of population growth in sinkhole-prone areas.

It has been said that our numbers have grown exponentially in Florida, when according to Department of Financial Service statistics, the opposite is true.

We’ve been told we should no longer be allowed to adjust Citizens Property Insurance claims, just one year after a legislative report showed we have a substantial positive impact on Citizens’ customers.

We’re accused of being “cost drivers,” keeping insurance companies from making a profit, while these same insurance companies are moving huge profits to less-regulated re-insurers that they own and manage.

We follow strict requirements and receive continuing education to maintain our licenses, while non-licensed individuals openly (and illegally) adjust claims.

Our job is to make sure people with valid insurance claims are treated fairly and receive the compensation they are due under the policies for which they’ve paid. We are licensed, bonded and trained to serve as the voice for policyholders. We are the only licensed insurance professionals who advocate for the insured.

If that describes a villain, would someone please tell me, who is the hero?

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David Beasley is president of the Florida Association of Public Insurance Adjusters, based in Maitland, Fla.

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Comments (17)

Donald Goodman
12:31PM SEP 27TH 2011
i did not get a public adjuster and got screwed the offered me $181. I then hired a public aduister he reopened the claim and got me $18,029.

Why...? Because the insurance company tried to rip me off and if it was not for the public adjuster they would have stolen that money.

i cant even imagine what it would be like without this pub adj.

I can only believe that the neg posts here are done by insurance lobbiest.
Mike
12:37PM MAR 26TH 2011
This post represents exactly what is wrong with the public adjusters -- they frequently say things that are hard to understand. Note the statement that PAs "are licensed and appointed by the state exclusively to represent insured policyholders". Makes it sound like they are the state's representative in the claims process. Yes, PAs are licensed, but they are not appointed by the state to represent consumers, nor do they have some exclusive relationship. Consumers unhappy with the claims process can complain to the state regulators, who will follow up with the company, or they can hire a lawyer to represent them. It's this type of confusion statement that really requires that state to regulate the advertising of PAs.
Vince
4:08PM MAR 26TH 2011
Good Luck with complaining to the state or to the insurers themselves, Mike.

Nine times out of ten they send you letters saying they are unable to help you.
Chris Mahoney
12:01AM MAR 26TH 2011
Outstanding post David. That seems to be the prevailing attitude here in Texas as well.

Chris
MissM
4:45PM MAR 25TH 2011
I recently had a water damage in my home. I contacted my insurance company who sent out an adjuster who said he would get his report in within the week and a check would immediatley follow. Well, I made the mistake of speaking with my neighbor who told me "the insurance company will screw you, get a public adjuster!!" So I did. Next thing I know, a 2 week max issue now was taking 3 months. I kept telling the public adjuster i wanted to speak with the company directly but he told me "absolutley not, I will deal with them, that's why your paying me". Well, 1 month later (4 months now for small water damage) I told the public adjuster to take a hike. I then called the company directly and was told the amount of their estimate was $8,000 but my public adjusters was $27,000. I about fell over!! They told me that from the beginning, they would do an estimate and forward that estimate and a check to me. When I had the repairs completed, if I was owed more, to simply give them a call...that simple. Could have been done in 10 days. Well, I called a contractor who came out and did ALL the repairs for $6,800. I was so happy that I refunded the insurance company the difference. I received a phone call thanking me for being so honest and I replied "I'm just sorry I basically screwed you for 4 months so I wanted to show my gratitude". There may be honest public adjusters out there, but if they all conduct business the way the guy I hired did, I would recommend no one hire one. By the way, my public adjuster wanted 20% of my settlement. when I told him "how was I supposed to pay that and do the repairs, he said "you will have more than enough to do the repairs as well as pay me, and probably have some left over!" True story.
MissB
4:12PM MAR 26TH 2011
Back in 2006 my daughter put some chicken nuggets in the microwave with the tin foil and the microwave blow up and set fire to my kitchen. My insurance company, Citizens, came out and paid me $9,000. I have three little girls with asthma and could not stay at the house. The company didnt even offer to help me stay at a hotel.

I called a public adjuster that was referred to me by my neighbor and when they came out, I felt really positive. They ended up getting me $43,000. I had to remove a lot of the drywall, insulation, the A/c Ductwork and even in the farthest room of my house, I had smoke. I was more than grateful to them for getting me that much. I had enough to put in a new kitchen, replace the a/c ducts and so forth.

I have had a great experience and would use the same PA. I am sorry you did not have a good experience. You should always use someone that is recommended to you. :)
Artwork
3:34PM MAR 25TH 2011
Public Adjusters are the ambulance chasers of the insurance industry. They are driving up costs for Florida consumers and any good done by a handful of them is far outweighed by the countless public adjusters who are soliciting consumers to milk the systems by filing bogus sinkhole claims and hurricane claims 5 years after any hurricanes hit us.
Vanny
3:48PM MAR 25TH 2011
Yes. I chase ambulances all day and have developed a technique for sinking homes during my spare times when I'm not chasing ambulances. I'm rich as a result.

Please Artwork. Most Pa's don't need to go out and solicit new claims. You guys piss policyholder's off so much they beg for our help. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.
Thomas
1:50PM MAR 25TH 2011
If you are looking out for the best interests for us, the insured, explain how you are either not driving up costs of claims or not swindling us.

You claim you are trying to get us the full amount owed for the loss under our policy in order to make the repairs to our homes, but how are you getting paid again? That's right, from our settlement checks. So if I understand the process correctly, you are getting us the "full amount" but then you are taking 8% - 20% of the settlement amount. Leaving us with 92% - 80% of the amount to complete the repairs...

If you are actually getting us the full amount to do the repairs as you claim, and you are getting paid your percentage, then the only way for that to be accomplished is for the amount of the claim to be inflated. Correct me if I am wrong, but that seems like it would be driving up costs.

You are not looking out for our best interests, you are looking out for yourself.
Bob
3:54PM MAR 25TH 2011
Thomas has made a point that would be valid IF Insurers paid accurately and fully every time a claim was filed. It does happen, just not regularly enough to make it smart to blindly accept what the Insurance companies offer. What they (Insurance companies) hate for the public to know is that insurance claims are negotiated settlements.
There is no need for a Public Adjuster to inflate the claim. Most initial settlement offers have "cost savings" introduced by an inside adjuster reviewing the file. The Field Adjusters estimate and opinion is frequently questioned and "corrected" to reflect Company policy which seldom favors the policy holder.The damage is what it is. The only way a Public Adjuster gets a higher settlement is by proving the claim, line item by line item. Insurance companies simply do not over pay a claim because a Public Adjuster is involved.

Hiring a professional levels the field and produces results well worth the fee paid. If there was any unbiased fairness in the claims process, the Public Adjuster's fee would be paid by the Insurance Company as a claim expense.
Free market
7:58PM MAR 25TH 2011
You cant explain insurance cliams adjustment to a person that thinks he knows everything. insurance claims involve large losses, complex losses, in which the insurance company has an adjuster whos job it is to pay it down as much as possible to keep as much money on the side of the insurance company as possible. Simply put, health insurance, property insurance commercial insurance companys make money by collecting policy premiums and not paying out claims, or paying out unfair minimal amounts on claims. PA maximze the correct amount due to bring back the property to it previous condition, or los from vadalism, robbery and so forth. Dont waste your breath with the back and forth of explaining a complex industry with legitimate bad faith practices by the isnurance company to people that are ignorant. One day, they will be on the receiving end of a bad faith settlement from an insurance company and they will seek an attourney or PA. What a PA charges and how it reflects on the money left to repair the home is an argument that once again holds little weight. There is enough money to pay the PA and fix the home and if there is money left over for the insured, well its their money to begin with. Its their home, they pay policy for years and will forever. They fix their home fully or in parts is none of anybodys business except the mortgage company that monitors the repairs to make sure their investment is properly repaired. People love to play "expert" in what they dont understand. My PA helped me settle a large $500,000.00 loss that originally the insurance company wanted to deny. NEVER ALLOW GOVERNMENT TO REMOVE ADVOCACY FOR THE PUBLIC. YOU HAVE THE CHOICE TO HIRE A PA OR NOT. DONT IMPOSE YOUR ILL WILL ON OTHERS. ITS A FREE MARKET!!!!
Thomas
4:46PM MAR 25TH 2011
That would be a good point if it made sense; It seems like you are referencing outlying incidents. If insurance companies did not regularly pay for claims appropriately there would be millions of unsatisfied people a year who filed claims and these houses/cars would now looks worse than they did before the loss.

Just as you said, insurance claims are negotiated settlements. Meaning that the insurance company's adjuster and the insured's contractor agree on a price and the work gets done as such. If the insured picks the contractor and they tell them what needs to be done to get the house back to normal, and the contractor gets paid an agreed price from the insurance company, than there is no problem. Your argument assumes that either the contractor the insured hires is out out to short the insured or the contractor is willing to get shorted by the insured. Which is it?

What argument were you making when you said "a Public Adjuster gets a higher settlement is by proving the claim, line item by line item?" That still only enhances my point. The public adjuster may come along and point out an under estimated "line" of a claim, but the insurance company than adjust's their estimate to concede that amount. They doesnt change the fact that you are still taking your percentage from the total payment, it just means your same percentage amount (20%) is now just a larger final payment for you, and even more the insured is out on.

Your final statement that the insurance company should pay the public adjuster is the most absurd thing on this board, and I would invite you to show me another profession with a similar structure. That's like me saying you should pay the broker hired by the person buying your home, because they assisted in the sale of your home. As the person selling the home, why would you do that?
Gaston
4:15PM MAR 26TH 2011
As far as I know, Contractor's really don't know about insurance. I had one who wrote to repair everything and the insurance company laughed at his "LINE ITEM" estimate. I hired a Public Adjuster with experience and she sat down with me and told me what was and wasn't covered. I was more than glad that I had obtained more money and had to pay the fee. As a policyholder and resident of Florida, I believe public adjusters are helpful and necessary.

Just my opinion.
Mike
4:18PM MAR 25TH 2011
I agree. We are hired in order to obtain a fair settlement. What do you want? For PA's to work for free? We charge a fee but recover money for the insured that would otherwise not be paid to the policyholder. Why do insurance companies collect premiums for sinkholes and then deny the claim?
Bill
3:16PM MAR 26TH 2011
Insurance companies have always had to pay real sinkhole claims. You know, the kind where the house is disappearing into a hole in the ground. What they shouldn't and didn't count on having to pay for is settlement cracks, the kind that basically every home in Florida has because they are all built on sand. The kind that people used to fill up with putty and paint over for the last 50 years. The problem is some PA's decided (because there haven't been enough wind claims for them to make a profit on) and created a new state lottery. They take those same cracks, jack up the settlement, nobody has to repair the "damage" and everybody gets paid. Everybody wins right? Wrong, you drive the insurance companies into the ground so either they go out of biz, raise rates, or don't have enough money to pay Hurricane claims. Until you decide what kind of "sinkhole" you want covered, no one can nail down the right rate, never mind get someone to actually pay it or god forbid make a profit.
al
3:45PM MAR 25TH 2011
Is that you Goree? Do you use the same comment on every article regarding public adjusters? You need new material because its getting old! It's like you repeat this garbage to yourself in the shower... Do you have any original material?
Dave
2:52PM MAR 31ST 2011
The ignorance of some of you people make me want to vomit! A public adjusters average fee is 10%. Im going to put this to you, so you ratards can understand it..READY? YOU PAY A PUBLIC ADJUSTER 10 CENTS and YOU KEEP 90 CENTS FOR EVERY DOLLAR HE GETS YOU... Are ya with me? Ok then. He meets with you,he reads your policy and informs you of your entitlements. He provides a detailed estimate,he meets the carriers adjuster at your home,and agrees to a scope of damage. The carrier sends the money they feel the claim is worth,(they have a certain amount of time to send a check)then the public adjuster fights for the balance he feels the claim is worth with all of the documentation needed to prove his case. This allows you the policy holder to continue on with your life and not have to deal with the red tape the carriers want you to jump through if you dont allow thier crappy contractors to "fix your house" or take the wholesale claim amount they offer. For 10 cents on the dollar, its a no brainer!!!!!! Some of you obviously drank the koolaid!!!!!!!!!!! IDIOTS!!!!!!!! If I was your public adjuster I wouldnt let you speak to them either,your bound to give yourself a bloody nose! You sent money back to them??? You are about a stupid M.F'R