Politics

Rick Scott Waiting for Supervisors to Restart Search for Noncitizen Voters

By: Jim Turner | Posted: July 16, 2012 6:00 PM
Vicki Davis

Martin County Supervisor of Elections Vicki Davis

Gov. Rick Scott laid out a challenge to state supervisors of elections to restart his effort to find noncitizens from among the lists of registered voters now that the federal government will make a long-sought database available to Florida.

The supervisors, busy Monday with the final day of registration for the Aug. 14 election, said they will address the review on Tuesday.

Appearing on CNN on Monday morning, Scott said he had no idea why the federal government finally agreed on Saturday to open up the Homeland Security Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements program (SAVE) database, but appreciated the decision that had been blocked by the Obama administration since last fall.

He added that he “can’t imagine” the supervisors wouldn’t restart the review for noncitizens that the majority halted last month. The state, after all, has been after the database for the last 12 months.

“This is very reliable data that the Department of Homeland Security is going to be giving us,” Scott said.

“I don’t know anybody, any supervisor of elections, anybody in our state who thinks non-U.S. citizens ought to be voting in our races.”

As the bickering between the federal and state governments shifted to the courts, county elections officials said the state needs to provide better proof that names submitted for voting-list removal may not be U.S. citizens

Martin County Supervisor of Elections Vicki Davis, president of the Florida State Association of Supervisors of Elections, said the elections officials will decide Tuesday “how to proceed.”

The supervisors will hold a conference call on Tuesday with their legal counsel, she said.

The state, using driver’s license information, has asked county supervisors of elections to verify the citizenship of 2,625 suspected noncitizens. Another 180,000 names have been identified for further review by the state.

More than 100 names were removed before the majority of counties halted the review.

Once the agreement is signed, expected later this week, the state will first run the 2,625 names through the database, said Chris Cate, spokesman for Secretary of State Ken Detzner.

The state will then rerun the 180,000 names through the system to get state driver’s licenses before putting a more updated list through the federal database, Cate said.

“We want to make sure we have the most current data we have in Florida and verifying it with the federal government,” Cate said.

The agreement is to make the database available to the state beyond the 2012 election cycle.

Democrats have argued that the state effort is a push to remove minorities from the list of registered voters prior to the 2012 presidential contest.

The Department of Justice has claimed the state’s effort to remove voters may violate the 1965 Voting Rights Act -- requiring federal preclearance before undertaking any changes in Monroe, Hillsborough, Collier, Hardee and Hendry counties, which have past experience with minority-voting problems -- and that because of the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, time has run out for the review before the 2012 elections.

Assistant U.S. Attorney General Thomas Perez had called on Florida to halt the review it had been conducting using state records. He claimed Florida’s request to access the database includes inaccuracies, adding that the SAVE database requires immigration-related identifiers and documentation, which the state hasn’t confirmed would be available.



Reach Jim Turner at jturner@sunshinestatenews.com or at (772) 215-9889.



Comments (18)

Bryan Bouton
12:42PM JUL 17TH 2012
"suddenly gained access"?...what about "always had access IF they could provide a "unique identifier"...US Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Alejandro Myaorkas REITERATED...that means said AGAIN...which means that Florida/Governor Scott always has had access to SAVE but didn't have the proper procedure in place to use it...

our Gov...still stupid...the media...buying into the PR crap shoveled by his office...
Sherryl
11:21AM JUL 17TH 2012
We elect Supervisors of Elections to make sure that our voting database and all requirements are followed and kept up-to-date. There are no elections that go on all year long, so they should be able to check and correct the database throughout the year. We pay them and their staffs with our tax dollars (plus their pensions, etc.). Having been involved with our local REC, it was always a know fact that the voter databasse for Florida is so far out-of-date and inaccurate, it's a joke among anyone wanting basic voter information. Folks don't want to use it bacuse it is inaccurate. No wonder there are dead people on the rolls, or even non-citizens! It's not trying to keep anyone from voting just because a database needs a lot of clean-up and correcting to make it accurate and reflect the true voting database for our state, and therefore each county within our state. If I'm not mistaken, the main database comes out of the Division of elections in Tallahassee....why are we paying them to do a job that they are unwilling to do?
steve
8:28AM JUL 17TH 2012
Looks like the supervisor of elections in Florida are doing the same thing Rick Scott is doing about the health care law declared constitutional from the U.S. Supreme Court.......Ignoring him!
Franklin Thompson
9:47AM JUL 17TH 2012
And why would you want them to not remove illegal voters?
Frank
11:25AM JUL 17TH 2012
And why would you want to remove legal voters?
Franklin Thompson
9:12PM JUL 17TH 2012
I don't because they are legal.
Frank
9:19PM JUL 17TH 2012
Of course you don't because it's not your job, but it was done in 2000, has already been done in several other states this year, and the concern is when you set up a system like Florida's (if you don't respond within 30 days, you're no longer a voter), it doesn't work without creating problems and removing legal voters.

That appears to be one reason why the election supervisors seem unlikely to remove any more names prior to the Aug. primary, and seem skeptical of doing it before November.
Franklin Thompson
9:24AM JUL 17TH 2012
No. When non citizens are on the voting rolls, and attempt to vote, that is illegal. Opting out of non mandatory provisions of obama care is not illegal.
Frank
11:20AM JUL 17TH 2012
No, just partisan, anti-Florida and costly, much like the effort that will remove legal voters unless done ACCURATELY, TIMELY and LEGALLY.
Franklin Thompson
3:14PM JUL 17TH 2012
Once again, denying facts and attempting to replace those facts with innuendo.
Frank
5:39PM JUL 17TH 2012
I think you've proved yourself in that "lie" arena time after time. Perhaps I should start to repeat/quote info from other states where similar purges have removed seniors like a legal Indiana Republican WWII vet for Romney (Edward and his wife Mary Weidenbener) whose votes were permanently thrown out thanks to new Republican voter ID efforts in that state.

Yeah, innuendo indeed; try voter suppression, victimizing even legal Republican voters.
Franklin Thompson
9:15PM JUL 17TH 2012
Nope again. This is designed to remove illegal voters. That's about it.
Frank
6:51PM JUL 21ST 2012
See, it's that "That's ABOUT it" where the devil's in the details. What else is there - intimidation of hispanic legal voters, denial at the polling place, what else?

So, if it ends up up with even one legal voter going to the polls and ending up with their vote not counting, you'll be willing to leave the state as a liar, correct?

Perhaps you need to read up on the 2000 election and what happened to african-american voters just before that election who were legal voters and denied their right to vote, and again, look at what happened in this year's Indiana priary to a WWII Republican voter and his wife who votes were not counted.

Yes, you must be right because you say so, and all the Republican and Democratic election supervisors who TOGETHER have so far refused to carry out this purge must all be wrong, correct?

You clearly know what you're talking about, and the election supervisors don't, correct?

PATHETIC politics of the "Big Lie".
Dave Francis
8:49PM JUL 16TH 2012
DON’T DISMISS THE TEA PARTY ON ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
The deaths caused illegal alien drivers, inebriated or not has caused the town of Milford, Massachusetts and two other towns to sign up for the ICE Mutual Agreement between Government and Employers (IMAGE) program. Employers that sign up for IMAGE agree to: apply E-Verify for new hires; undertake an I-9 form audit to expose illegal aliens currently in the workforce; plus hold training sessions for human resource employees on how to avoid hiring illegal aliens (e.g., on spotting document fraud). Since IMAGE helps extract currently employed illegal aliens, it is considered the best overhaul innovation for maintaining a legal workforce. After illegal-alien drunk drivers slaughtered two citizens a few years ago, Milford officials begin to scrutinize options for reducing illegal immigration. A third death last year forced the town, and local state legislators, into action.

The state legislators from the area led the charge on enforcement legislation that became law in Massachusetts this week. Each few months counties and cities are learning about the significance of E-Verify and what it would do for the overall populations of their communities. However, salvos of rhetoric and lies have been spread about E-Verify, the Legal Workforce Act (H.R. 2885). But even so E-Verify is spreading --so fast and hundreds of thousands of business entities are now signed up. Of course either sides one way or another are courting the illegal alien invasion, whereas the Republicans to a lesser extent.

THE FED’S REFUSE TO ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS; OTHERWISE ILLEGAL ENTRY WOULD BE A FELONY? YOU CAN ALWAYS LEARN MORE AT ‘NumbersUSA’.

What American citizens must be aware of is the Democratic indifference to non citizens voting in our elections. The Liberal airwaves, including TV and radio broadcast, then especially the media deny this, but the avid reader can observe this for themselves. Just type into any search engine ‘Voter Fraud’ and the truth will be hard to conceal, certainly when Obama before being president, was employed by the notorious ACORN canvassing organization. What went on in its ranks was a serious violation of election laws. In the last few days the Justice Department has relented and given Florida the right to verify the election rolls of registrations to check for none citizens. Wonders will never cease, but Obama’s advisors are still offering bad advice on the illegal immigration invaders. Of course if I was in charge--anybody caught violating the voting rules, would be transported to Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s TENT CITY in Arizona, eating spam sandwiches.

With both the majority of the Democratic and Republican base failing to enact a mandatory E-Verify law, it’s easy to read between the lines why? Both political parties have been heavily corrupted by either corporate influence or for the Democrats a whole host of adversaries, as large radical minority groups, unions and even the church high echelons. Meanwhile low income Americans are suffering, not excluding teenagers who once looked forward for a part time job as it was in the not so distant past.

Today we have the Constitutional TEA PARTY, the ‘People’s Party’ who are not just represented by white people as the open border progressives would like you to think. The TEA PARTY is a mix of ordinary decent citizens and green card holders of different skin colors, but with one endearing agenda to rid us of illegal invaders; ObamaCare and everything that qualifies to raise taxes. If you don’t already know anything about Obama’s health care law, the hiring has begun for recruitment. ObamaCare means to recruit least 400.000 enforcement federal officers, which just adds up to the greatest expansion of Washington, that America has ever seen under this Democratic Party.

Doesn’t matter who is in control of America; either for Obama for another term or his antagonist Mitt Romney? Both must be held accountable by the TEA PARTY.
Dave Francis
8:49PM JUL 16TH 2012
Although Obama started his presidency doing well in flushing out illegal aliens, the enforcement has slowed to a crawl. Not just to gain points in the ethnic groups by bypassing Congress, undermining the ‘Rule of Law’ but by enacting a loosely effective Dream Act, so that the illegal alien parents should be held accountable for their violating immigration laws, but now the administration is placing a strain on certain sectors of the border, by closing down entry ports. It’s all to do with votes and where the Democrats they are unconcerned who votes, shown by the attitude of the U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. He is expanding his power by not only enforcing states who are enraged they have to support their population of illegal aliens, but this nasty little man is determined to let non citizens vote. He has attacked the sacred sovereignty of not only Arizona, but Alabama, Georgia and a bunch of others, who cannot sustain the huge financial burden of education, schooling, low income housing, benefits for low income Mothers, cash payments, children’s breakfast and lunch at school, interpreters for bilingual education and a great deal more welfare programs, that foreigners have been allowed to consume; which citizens cannot even touch.

While you’re working to pay your annual taxes to cover the cost of Obamacare, the IRS will be extorting even more money from you to pay for the free health care of illegal aliens, plus unknown numbers of ‘freeloaders’ and we know there are plenty of them. If Obama gets his way, a person will not even to have some reasonable excuse to gain acceptance for food stamps? Eventually we will turn into another country like Greece and the flow of the money from the government coffers, taxpayers will not be able to contribute enough funds to a least balance our debts.

Other than the exception of highly paid immigrants holding PhDs ‘s in science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM), who should be given expedited preference visas, all others should be deported. America has become a magnet from over 20 million plus foreign nationals, who have ignored our laws and through corporate favors both parties are handing out a million new visas annually than low skilled recipients. Then illegal females have hooked up to a free pass, by smuggling unborn children into this sovereign country. The 14th Amendment has mutated, that originally was for the emancipation of slaves and now used to allow pregnant females to gain a ‘foothold’ into the U.S. This is the inception of the Dream Act of illegal parents bringing unborn babies into America. Once here the female can then receive free health care, education for the child that is costing taxpayers a hundred billion dollars a year. The Birthright Citizenship bill (H.R. 140) sitting in Congress, should be passed—instead its gathering dust in some legislators filing cabinet.

Time to wake up the politicians in Washington and inform them all, they are swaying on a tightrope. That tightrope is the TEA PARTY and they are quietly infiltrating both political parties. YOU THE VOTER CAN ALSO CONTRIBUTE BY INVESTIGATING YOUR LOCAL POLITICIAN AND THEN VOTING THEM OUT ACCORDING TO HIS UN-AMERICAN PLANS. THE TEA PARTY LEADERSHIP HAS GAINED ACCEPTANCE BY MILLIONS OF VOTING AMERICANS AND IS RELEASING THEIR FURY ON THE DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS. BOTH PARTIES ARE CORRUPT AS THEY COME, WITH JUST A FEW REPRESENTATIVES WHO STAND FOR THE PEOPLE.

MANY Governors, Mayors, Police Chiefs and wide web of ‘oath of allegiance’ impersonators, who have signed such ordinances as Sanctuary Cities, allowing the illegal alien criminals to run rampant, because the police are not allowed to question the immigration status. There was ugly death of 3 family members at the bloody hands of a gang member in San Francisco, because of the dire incompetence of the prior Governor and his retinue. Nobody should think the deaths of innocent victims are isolated and very few, as throughout America death drives the highways; illegal alien drivers with no license, no insurance and hardly able to recognize the highway codes. Illegal aliens have been able to turn amok, because the government is badly flawed and remained unconcerned of the disastrous invasion.

There should be no acceptance of the illegal immigration invaders and the TEA PARTY agenda will have as many leaders they can fit into the seats in the Senate and House of Representatives, to do the bidding of the American People. If you want to see change—REAL CHANGE—in Washington, locate your local chapter of the TEA PARTY. It’s the time to look after our own future, our own people; not other countries problems?

URGENT NOTICE: Investigation of President Obama’s background history is due to be released by Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio on July 17, 2012 and could stun everybody. The upcoming press conference is set to be held at 2:30 p.m. local time at the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office in Phoenix, Arizona, with World Net Daily again providing live streaming video coverage.
Conservative Voice
8:07PM JUL 16TH 2012
He also said it was perfectly legal to remove non citizens and the 90 day period did not pertain to them. Report all of it if you are going to report any of it.
Frank
9:49PM JUL 16TH 2012
The 90 day provision hasn't kicked in yet (before the Presidential election).

Removing non-citizens was never the issue, as you well know if you have ANY intelligence. It has always been about not removing legal voters, as Republicans did just before the 2000 election in Florida. But then you would deny that ever happened, correct (and I hope so, because my fact is easily provable and the reason why we have a provisional ballot in Florida now).
Frank
7:59PM JUL 16TH 2012
It's yet to be seen whether this can be carried out ACCURATELY, TIMELY and LEGALLY.

If not, the federal judge has indicated his door is always open to reconsider the merits of whether the manner in which this is being carried out violates feredal law.

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