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Union Challenge to Florida Pension Reform Stirs Backlash

TaxWatch: 'Government employment is not a guaranteed right'; checking FEA's brass
By: Kenric Ward | Posted: June 22, 2011 3:55 AM
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Conservatives and taxpayer groups are lashing back at a teachers' union lawsuit challenging Florida's new pension law.

"They should count their blessings, and realize that the world has changed, even if the retirement system has not," Florida TaxWatch President and CEO Dominic Calabro said of public employees who will be required to make a 3 percent contribution toward their pensions.

Calling the state's current noncontributory system "so out of whack, so unlike the way the governed live," Calabro derided the legal challenge by the Florida Education Association and other public-employee unions.

"We don't see how their concern has any substance. Forty-nine other states and the federal government have [employee contribution rules]. This is not mandating that people work for state government. Government employment is not a guaranteed right, it's a privilege of public service, and this is a contribution to the common good," he said.

In filing suit, FEA President Andy Ford said the contribution requirement is "essentially an income tax levied only on workers belonging to the Florida Retirement System.

"It’s unfair -- and it breaks promises made to these employees when they chose to work to improve our state,” Ford said.

Though two conservative Florida attorneys contacted by Sunshine State News were not yet willing to state an opinion on the merits of the case, Andrew Nappi of the Florida 10th Amendment Center, questioned Ford's contractual contention.

"The first question to be answered is, was there what would be considered a 'contract' existing between the parties," Nappi said. "Since it was the state that changed the pension law to noncontributory status back in the early '70s, why can't they legislate it back to a contributory system?"

"My non-attorney guess is this suit fails when all is said and done," Nappi predicted.

Noting that the 2011 Legislature scaled back Gov. Rick Scott's initial call for a 5 percent pension contribution, Calabro said, "This is not draconian. It's a very modest measure."

Bob McClure, president of the conservative James Madison Institute, said that school employees, who constitute roughly half of the 655,000 active employees in the Florida Retirement System, should take a hard look at their union brass.

“One way to ensure that teachers have greater take-home pay after these retirement changes go into effect is for the Florida Education Association to lower its dues -- and the salaries it pays union officials,” McClure said.

“Currently, more than half of FEA’s employees make in excess of $100,000 -- which is at least twice as much as some of our state’s best teachers.”

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Contact Kenric Ward at kward@sunshinestatenews.com or at (772) 801-5341


 


Comments (11)

R.A. Sanders
12:09PM JUN 23RD 2011
I have no problem contributing to my pension although I do feel it is a breach of contract. My position is that the state cannot then mandate me where my 3% contribution should go... allow me the option to put my money where I want ...nothing should be mandated by government...is this not the current Rs argument about the new health care laws????
Bobb
7:44AM JUN 23RD 2011
Now we're seeing their (FEA) true colors, it's all about the money. They simply want us to provide them with a Rolls Royce retirement at any price to the taxpayer. They don't care.
Independent
6:02PM JUN 22ND 2011
It's time that people stop criticizing teachers for the few benefits they have and demand that private sector employers return to the pension system that helped build the middle class. The private sector 401K plan will not be enough for people to retire on. It's going to be ugly in about 15-20 years when people realize that their 401Ks aren't enough despite contributing faithfully for the duration of their employment.
Corinne Spencer
1:19PM JUN 22ND 2011
If changes are made to the retirement system of teachers it should be initiated with newly hired. It is not fair to change it for those who entered teaching under the knowledge that they did not have to contribute. They should be grandfathered in. Florida pays teachers less than most states and not having to contribute to their retirement was one of the only incentives they had.
Joanne Hublitz
7:23PM JUN 22ND 2011
I have a Republican husband who is very much anti-union, pro-business, Fox New supporter, etc. We have fights all the time about these issues. HOWEVER, he took Business and Contract Law and KNOWS what a breach of contract is. When I explained what was happening to him, the first thing he said was, "that's ILLEGAL". You cannot change a contract without the agreement of both parties to that contract. If you are a business person and contract to pay x number of dollars for 1,000 widgets, your supplier cannot turn around and say I want z dollars to 500 widgets. Would you smart business people do that? Hell, no. Would say you give me those widgets at x dollars or I will SUE YOU. I don't care if you are BROKE, give me my wigets at the price we agree on.
Steve H
2:19PM JUN 22ND 2011
The problem is the max pension for teachers is only 48% of avg 5 yr salary after 30 years..much less than most states. The pay is lower than most states. That is why the no contribution was formed in the 70's. Most states do force contributions but pay higher and with up to 90% of final pay average. That is insane and should be fixed. FLoridas pension is moderate and therefore still one of the most financially solvent in the country. The COLA elimination is the much worse than the contribution. The lawsuit should fight that even harder. A small contributuion somewhat makes sense. The COLA elimination has in effect halved the cash value of each members pension.
public_ed
10:18AM JUN 22ND 2011
"...Bob McClure, president of the conservative James Madison Institute, said that school employees, who constitute roughly half of the 655,000 active employees in the Florida Retirement System, should take a hard look at their union brass.

“One way to ensure that teachers have greater take-home pay after these retirement changes go into effect is for the Florida Education Association to lower its dues -- and the salaries it pays union officials,” McClure said.

“Currently, more than half of FEA’s employees make in excess of $100,000 -- which is at least twice as much as some of our state’s best teachers.”"

And how much do you make, Mr. McClure?
Repubtallygirl
10:22AM JUN 24TH 2011
That question is Irrelevant, he is not getting paid by the taxpayers. (nice class warfare though, what a good little progressive you are.)

Again, NO ONE forced anyone of these state workers to work for the state, if you don't like it, go somewhere else.
Robert Lloyd
9:05AM JUN 22ND 2011
I support getting unions out of any gov't function. But more importantly, we need to understand that the gov't should NOT be in the education business at all, period. This is something so important to our families and children and we should never have allowed the gov't to take over this all important task.

We now are getting what we deserve.
Publius
8:16PM JUN 22ND 2011
Mr. Robert Lloyd: You're an ignorant, blithering idiot. And like most teabagger loonies, you think the rest of us are, also.

"The gov't should NOT be in the education business at all, period" - WRONG! I point out to you, you historically ignorant moron, that one of the greatest of our Founding Fathers - Thomas Jefferson - was ADAMANT that free, government-supported public education was a CENTRAL PILLAR to a free society. He advocated - and helped to create - the public education system that this country has now had for more than two centuries.

And WHY did Thomas Jefferson, as well as many other Founders, believe in such free, government-supported education? Simple - when education is not freely provided, but instead available only to the wealthy, you create a system where only a few people have access to the knowledge that it takes to successfully be a citizen in a free society - and you create a society where wealth, knowledge, and privilege are available only to a few. (Sound familiar?) Our free, publicly supported educational system is one of the things that helped to build our great country - and is a vital component to ANY free society.

Mr. Lloyd, you're a shining example of the inverse ratio between the size of the mouth and the size of the brain - and ignorant, pinheaded jackasses like you are the driving voice of the Teabaggers and one of the things that's sending our country down the tubes.
Robert Lloyd
8:25AM JUN 23RD 2011
>>Thomas Jefferson - was ADAMANT that free, government-supported public education was a CENTRAL PILLAR to a free society.<<

And if Mr Jefferson said we should all jump off a steep cliff, I don't think I'm jumping. But in all fairness, I hope you do.

And there is nothing FREE about this bureaucratic and corrupt system of gov't mis-education. The cost is upwards of $25,000 per student per year, depending on the district. What is taught is another story altogether.

Note to website: This 'Publius' individual should be barred from posting his personal attacks. I have a problem with the person that allowed this post also. Certainly, Sunshine State News can do better than this.

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